>From Magisto's perspective, having publicly announced reaching 50 million users 2.5 months ago, such costs can rack up very, very quickly to tens of thousands of dollars per month. This applies not just to e-hawk but also to akismet, to email verification/validation services and to transaction fraud services. at least the latter can be directly linked to revenue...
At minimum to make this economically viable, we will have to wrap any such service with our own rudimentary implementation to filter out / downrank the blatantly bad stuff. I didn't do this research for signup fraud yet, but for e-mail address verification there is little point in getting an inflated bill from your vendor for doing something which you can do in-house cheaply and efficiently, like maintain a DEA blacklist, good domain whitelist and do some parked domain detection. And then let the vendor handle the more complex remaining stuff. Gil On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Paul Kincaid-Smith <p...@sendgrid.com> wrote: > I'm glad you found the UGC blog post useful, Gil. > > To make sure I understand your comment on pricing, were you referring to > E-Hawk's pricing or the costs to integrate other "blocklists and bot > detection mechanisms?" > > What orders of magnitude are you seeing for signups on your service? Seems > like an interesting problem to solve. > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Gil Bahat <g...@magisto.com> wrote: > >> Excellent stuff, comprehensive and yet very straightforward. e-hawk in >> particular seems a great alternative to rolling something on our own and >> starting to evaluate various blocklists and bot detection mechanisms. can >> get very very expensive though at our signup rate. >> I find the idea to apply akismet to outgoing UGC a great one, because >> 'standard' outbound spam filters don't aim UGC sharing systems, rather they >> aim at ISPs, ESPs and big webmail providers. >> >> Thanks a lot, extremely useful. >> >> Gil Bahat, >> DevOps/Postmaster, >> Magisto Ltd. >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Paul Kincaid-Smith <p...@sendgrid.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Gil, >>> >>> I am the postmaster for magisto, an app centered around user generated >>> content >>>> (UGC). we enjoy some popularity, and with popularity comes abuse. >>>> There are users who utilize magisto to generate content to be used for >>>> spamvertisement and/or other unsavory content. they will then "invite" >>>> users to see this content, in an unsolicited fashion, using the >>>> built-in content invite mechanism. >>>> <snip, snip> >>>> in short - recommendations are most welcome, reference to best >>>> practices or case studies from applicable examples. >>>> >>> >>> Here is a blog post that consolidates my Delivery and Compliance teams' >>> tips for safely emailing user generated content: >>> https://sendgrid.com/blog/how-to-safely-email-user-generated-content/ >>> I hope it's helpful to you. >>> >>> --Paul >>> >>> >> >
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