On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Steve Atkins <st...@blighty.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Jim Popovitch <jim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:46 PM, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>> IMHO, Mailman should strip the existing DKIM header and Mailop.org should 
>>>>> sign anew.
>>>>
>>>> Yes!  That is the perfect and proper way, despite some rants by less
>>>> experienced mailinglist operators.
>>>
>>> Hi.  I've been running mailing lists since the late 1970s and having
>>> actually read the DKIM specs and written a fair amount of DKIM code, I
>>> know that stripping signatures makes no difference unless someone's
>>> mail filters are breathtakingly broken.
>>
>> But leaving the DKIM signatures provides what actual value with modern
>> MLMs (i.e. not .forward files, etc.)  ?
>
> The same value as most of the other trace headers - debugging problems
> after the fact. "This mail was apparently DKIM signed when sent by the
> original author" (probably) isn't terribly useful to automation, but it is for
> human debugging.

I turn the old signature into an X-header, which strips it of its
power as far as machine validation goes, but leaves it available for
human debugging if desired.

I really dislike leaving a no-longer-valid DKIM signature in place as
is -- we'll see how ARC might change whether or not you might want to
do that -- but today, if that signature is left intact it's going to
fail when checked and I don't think you'd want to purposely set
somebody up to deal with that. I just don't think it qualifies as a
best practice.

Al

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