What's the real cost to the consumer for the raffle registration? The get more spam to their postal box or more email spam that mostly goes to the spam folder.
The chances of winning are likely small but so is the cost to them. None of us mailbox providers charge based on number of messages received, and longer term limits like quota aren't affected since it's deleted. There's obviously a cost to the ecosystem in terms of extra load, though in postal mail that actually helps pay for the system. Obviously in email it's a pure cost, though a small fraction overall compared to the more abusive spammers (not an excuse, just observation). So, crappy stuff, but not purely irrational for the consumer. Brandon On Sep 20, 2017 8:31 AM, "Benjamin BILLON via mailop" <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Just a small clarification: from what I understand of what co-registration > is, based on Signal-Spam and ReturnPath documentations for instance, this > is when, in whatever form you are filling, there's the possibility to > subscribe voluntarily to other, related or not, newsletters. Like if I'm > purchasing GAP clothes and Crocks shoes (don't hit me, it's just for the > sake of the example) on Amazon, and on the check-out page, there's a > checkbox for each brand to subscribe to their newsletter directly. > I think that's the spirit. And I know that what's allowed or tolerated for > this are distinct, un-checked boxes for each subscription. > > So raffles that subscribe you to various stuff just because you tried to > win an iPad wouldn't be "co-registration". > There's another term, "affiliate marketing" that I'm not very clear about, > from what I found it's basically selling your list ... maybe that's closest > to the case of the raffle than co-registration. > > The thing about raffle is that if they still exist today, I guess that > there are still enough people actually trying to win that iPad, and that > generates enough money for companies to continue to do that kind of thing. > I honestly don't understand that. > > > > -- > <https://www.splio.com> > Benjamin > > 2017-09-20 22:49 GMT+08:00 David Hofstee <opentext.dhofs...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Vick, >> >> You are raffling back. So I hope I am clarifying the right part. >> >> My point with Co-registration: It does not work because there are other >> motivations for people subscribing (and therefore other expectations). >> Other motivations than just wanting to receive the actual email (e.g. >> receiving an Ipad). Because the recipient barely knows the other 3rd party >> that (s)he is registering with. >> >> So even if you try to set expectations in the clearest of ways, with a >> very good opt-in process, you will end up with many people hitting the spam >> button. Conclusion: It does no work even if it should. >> >> I am not sure where your sentence "never contact me again" is about. >> Please clarify. >> >> Yours, >> >> >> David >> >> On 20 September 2017 at 14:16, Vick Khera <vi...@khera.org> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:30 AM, David Hofstee < >>> opentext.dhofs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> E.g. co-registration. In my opinion, many of the companies I met that >>>> did that, just use it for "want to win an Ipad? Register here". This >>>> translates to "spam me with your emails for a chance of happiness". So >>>> basically these emails are unwanted. It is something else they are after, >>>> but not the email. Unsubscribing is usually a problem as well (you should >>>> be able to unsubscribe as easily as you >>>> >>> >>> Do you really expect raffles like that to imply "never contact me >>> again"? That's not just unrealistic, it is the exact opposite of what >>> people expect. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mailop mailing list >>> mailop@mailop.org >>> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> My opinion is mine. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > >
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