Mhh I'm not sure to follow how it's related. Your freemail accounts are then absolutely not reactive, ok. So if the sender was doing things good enough, he shouldn't be sending to those at the first place (I guess you don't subscribe your spamtraps to newsletters just for fun or watching the world burn), and if he was doing things even better, those would stop receiving emails at some points anyway as they'll be considered "inactives", and therefore not targetable anymore. Which is a policy that senders (not all, definitely not all of them as of today) enforce because reputation systems take recipients' reactivity into account, not because the consent is withdrawn or some other direct request from the recipient.
What does that have to do with JMRP, and how having even less reliable metrics is a good thing? -- <https://www.splio.com> Benjamin 2017-10-28 23:34 GMT+08:00 Bill Cole <mailop-20160...@billmail.scconsult.com >: > On 28 Oct 2017, at 4:12 (-0400), Benjamin BILLON via mailop wrote: > > This basically makes JMRP irrelevant for ESPs: we don't >> have reliable metrics, >> > > You must know already that ESP "metrics" are laughable to begin with, > right? > > For example, I have multiple freemail accounts, some of which exist only > to act as spamtraps. Nothing sent to those by so-called "legitimate" ESPs > has ever generated any indication back to the spammer that it has been seen > or read, since I never access email with a web browser or allow a MUA I'm > using to act like a web browser. > > You may believe that I'm just one cranky old sysadmin whose disdain for > HTML mail is rare enough to ignore, and that may be true. However, I have > been doing security policy and user safety training for a long time and > have directly spread the religion of Don't Load Remote Content and Don't > Click On Email Links to multiple corporate policies, many individuals, and > at least one commercial MUA. Coming in second behind "that's how modern > security attacks work" as a compelling evangelistic argument is "you're > giving an ESP private information for free." > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Currently Seeking Steady Work: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole > > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >
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