Sorry to interrupt, I just have a suggestion that maybe Michael could
forward internally: there used to have a Status page for various Microsoft
services, it either moved to some secret place or was removed. There's now
a page for Office365 clients (however being myself client the page
generates an asp error, but that's not the purpose of my message).

Could there be such a page somewhere again? If there are issues, just being
aware of them will already help ESPs and senders to 1) be patient and 2)
show to their clients or boss that yes, it happens, ISPs can have outages
or problems too.
I have no idea what format it would take, probably a "working / not
working" flag wouldn't be very useful, unless it's service by service (but
I don't think MS would disclose such level of details).
Knowing if it's geographically limited could be interesting to.

Is it a realistic suggestion, or should I put this dream in the shredder?

Cheers,


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2017-11-03 14:19 GMT+08:00 Emre Üst |euro.message| <emre....@euromsg.com>:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Yes we are still seeing same code .
>
>     2017-11-03 09:17:02 "451 4.7.500 Server busy. Please try again later
> from []. (AS3110)" received from hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com
> (104.47.5.33) matching /451 4.7.500 Server busy/
>
> We cant send even 1000 mails to Hotmail per day .
>
> Thank you
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This may be related to an incident a few days ago.
>>
>> Are you still seeing the 4xx retry results?
>>
>>
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Michael.
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Michael J Wise*
>> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
>>
>> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
>>
>> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Emre Üst |euro.message| [mailto:emre....@euromsg.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:05 PM
>> *To:* Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
>> *Cc:* mailop@mailop.org
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael ,
>>
>> Unfortunately , it doesnt work . Outlook Support team said that there is
>> not blocking on their side .
>>
>> Although the ips are Returnpath certified. Sometimes we also get 421
>> RP-001 (BAY004-MC2F28) errors. But mostly 451 4.7.500 Server busy.
>> Meanwhile, on snds I see that there is a lot of difference between the
>> number of RCPT fields and Message recipientss.
>>
>> For Exp.
>>
>>
>> RCPT
>> commands  111829
>>
>>
>>
>> DATA
>> commands 106093
>>
>>
>>
>> Message
>> recipients 1215
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Please open a ticket.
>>
>>
>>
>>               https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkID%3D614866%26clcid&data=02%7C01%7CMichael.Wise%40microsoft.com%7C2f4782c55b2f40a5ef4208d5222d0ad3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636452499220192627&sdata=HbSg8Akc%2Bgzia7rHrKlJdRYe39MdC%2BmbpA95OGbvLqo%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Michael.
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Michael J Wise*
>> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
>>
>> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
>>
>> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fdownload%2Fdetails.aspx%3Fid%3D18275&data=02%7C01%7CMichael.Wise%40microsoft.com%7C2f4782c55b2f40a5ef4208d5222d0ad3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636452499220192627&sdata=wjcH9RyKmDm9pNbnw02s9sUTdWVcaWqtb1m1UiN8Hkg%3D&reserved=0>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *Emre
>> Üst |euro.message|
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:20 PM
>> *To:* mailop@mailop.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Michael,
>>
>> We have same issues
>>
>> 185.11.213.11;185.11.213.12;185.11.213.13;185.11.213.14;185.11.213.15
>>
>> İts kind of like all network blocked .
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>>
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>> *EMRE ÜST*
>>
>> Deliverability Specialist
>>
>>
>>
>> *t.*   +902123430739 <(0212)%20343%2007%2039>
>> *f.*   +902123430742 <(0212)%20343%2007%2042>
>>
>> *email: *emre....@euromsg.com <%23>
>> *skype:* user_name
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