The solution ... is to stop thinking that all decisions on the legitimacy of an email can be resolved at the instant the machine is focusing on that one email.
We need to move beyond "Spam" filtering as a one-off, per message task and start working more actively on techniques of campaign detection, both outbound, as well as Inbound. And that requires noticing patterns of good behavior going over a line and becoming abusive. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -----Original Message----- From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Steve Atkins via mailop Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 3:20 AM To: Chris Adams via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted) > On May 10, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Leo Gaspard via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > wrote: > > Laura Atkins via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> writes: >> For victims of listbombing, COI isn’t an answer. In fact, much of the >> problem with listbombing is COI mail. >> >> How do you propose to address that issue? > > Captchas are a way to force the malicious subscriber to spend human or > computer time breaking it (if captchas can be broken). > > As a consequence, it might make sense to just accept it is the case > and require a javascript-generated proof of work before accepting the > subscription. > > This way the amount of computer time required can be more easily > modulated, and the human is not faced with a hard-to-answer captcha -- > I don't know how you feel, but as a user I'd much rather have my > computer spin for a few tens of seconds before sending the form > (especially as it can happen at the same time as I fill it) than have > to fill in a captcha. Bad people have access to much more, and much cheaper, compute resource than good people. There are other things wrong with your suggestion but that's a simple thing to think about first. It also generalizes to many other poorly thought through "just use proof of work to solve email problems!" ramblings. Cheers, Steve _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fchilli.nosignal.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmailop&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7Ca8ed02d09fec4f9fd7de08d6d531f2fd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636930807838197968&sdata=8fwJY13wy5U0T4nUPRlB%2BuxgPf9G8wITCAzA%2FrI6%2BhE%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
