> On 10 May 2019, at 14:11, Leo Gaspard via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> 
> Steve Atkins via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> writes:
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Leo Gaspard via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Laura Atkins via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> writes:
>>>> For victims of listbombing, COI isn’t an answer. In fact, much of the 
>>>> problem with listbombing is COI mail.
>>>> 
>>>> How do you propose to address that issue?
>>> 
>>> Captchas are a way to force the malicious subscriber to spend human or
>>> computer time breaking it (if captchas can be broken).
>>> 
>>> As a consequence, it might make sense to just accept it is the case and
>>> require a javascript-generated proof of work before accepting the
>>> subscription.
>>> 
>>> This way the amount of computer time required can be more easily
>>> modulated, and the human is not faced with a hard-to-answer captcha -- I
>>> don't know how you feel, but as a user I'd much rather have my computer
>>> spin for a few tens of seconds before sending the form (especially as it
>>> can happen at the same time as I fill it) than have to fill in a
>>> captcha.
>> 
>> Bad people have access to much more, and much cheaper, compute resource
>> than good people.
>> 
>> There are other things wrong with your suggestion but that's
>> a simple thing to think about first. It also generalizes to many other
>> poorly thought through "just use proof of work to solve email problems!"
>> ramblings.
> 
> I hope you didn't assume I was saying it's a good idea. I was *only*
> saying it was a better idea than captchas, as an answer to Laura's
> question.

You need to work a lot harder than that to convince me that using javascript 
generated proof of work is a somehow more appealing and effective than 
captchas. 

laura 

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