The 1st NDR (we will be trying for the next N days) can come in around half an hour of no delivery. Electronic mail has a delay even when it's working properly. That's why it's not called instant messaging. I generally expect around a 5 to 10 minute delay on messages. I have the naïve user mindset of checking immediately, because I know the delays are usually shorter than I expect, but I don't get antsy about deliverability until a big tranche of an hour has passed.
Having 7 day delivery is better than not having any delivery at all, but you do need to balance that against disk space concerns. On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:43:35 -0800 "Luis E. Muñoz via mailop" <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > > On 3 Feb 2020, at 14:20, Michael Orlitzky via mailop wrote: > > > You have problems with 100% of messages 0.0001% of the time -- it's > > not > > a steady 99.9999 success rate, even though that's what the numbers > > look > > like if your window is five-years long. > > Since recently – heh, let's call it 5-6 years – I've observed more > and more that senders are unable to connect the first NDR ("your mail is > stuck, we're still trying") with their original message. There's some > cognitive dissonance at play here. If the bounce is not instantaneous, > that NDR is a waste of resources for them. More or less the same happens > with the final NDR ("sorry, I give up"), where they seem to be unable to > grasp that the message was not delivered. > > Setting the first NDR too soon tend to cause confusion – and often, a > resent of the same message – which does not improve the situation for > that specific communication. > > This issue is, IMO, testament that the email landscape today is far more > resilient than 30 years ago. But we still need to accommodate the > occasional flooded rack. User expectations are very heavily driven by > what happens with 99.9999% of their email. Can't say I blame them. > > Personally, I've seen more bounces in the last 3 months due to receivers > wanting to do TLSv1.0 than the rest of possible causes, all together. > The NDR has helped notice this and make special arrangements. But still, > the senders were not entirely aware of what happened to their email > during the few hours they remained in our outbound queues. > > Best regards > > -lem > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop -- Large Hadron Collider <large.hadron.colli...@gmx.com> _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop