On Thu, 2021-08-05 at 22:52 +1000, Noel Butler via mailop wrote: > On 05/08/2021 19:07, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > > I would never block an entire server/provider, no matter big or > > small, unless the server/provider sends spam *only* and not any > > legitimate emails. > > > psssst NEWSFLASH the blocking is to the advantage of end users >
One mailop's spammer is another mailop's end user. Hold off your fire... > you run your spam infested network the way you want, and i'll run > mine the way I want. THIS is the main reason why internet email is doomed for failure and why I second the following, earlier statement in another thread: On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 19:19 +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2021-07-30 18:10:23 (+0800), G. Miliotis via mailop wrote: > > We're just managing our misery here. > > That's a great tag line for mailop@. :-) Truth is: internet email sits on a fault line that is more poisonous than the magma fumes emanating from geophysical fault lines. Email works fairly well as an internal service because one mailop rules all users. Email fails utterly when mailops serve interests on opposite sides of the fault line. Trying to deliver internet email today is more complex and difficult than trying to effect legal service on an absconding defendant. "The dog ate the envelope" is no excuse, even if the dog is some fancy experimental M$ AI trying to second guess recipient's interest and punish bad actors according to its own rules, arguably arbitrary. When an end user cannot rely on internet email to deliver messages, they will look for alternatives. Internet email is being bypassed left and right by messaging platforms with tighter controls. Spammers are trying to infiltrate those platforms too, but with much less success than internet email. If anyone can suggest an email relay system that is compliant with US HIPAA <https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/index.html>, I would love to connect my internal email system to it and outsource email deliverability problems. Regards, Yuv -- Yuval Levy, JD, MBA, CFA Ontario-licensed lawyer _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop