On 9/24/21 13:36, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote:
> I think you misunderstood what Michael wrote. I think he was refering
> to the changes in WHOIS, which makes it harder to find correlating
> abusers, since the data is now hidden due to the implementation of
> GDPR. Privacy is sometimes a two-edged sword.
And gathered WHOIS data was also often used for spamming...

Ciao, Michael.

>> On 24 Sep 2021, at 11.40, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dnia 23.09.2021 o godz. 20:41:41 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze:
>>> It's just really sad, that instead of going after malicious
>>> dangerous offenders we keep bringing on new laws to make it harder
>>> to do so. GDPR, anonymous domain registries etc..
>>
>> Why do you assume that GDPR is a law directed to facilitate spamming or
>> similar activities?
>>
>> GDPR basically says that nobody is allowed to use your personal data (which
>> includes your e-mail address) without clearly explaining who uses the data,
>> which data is used, for what purpose and on which legal basis. And in most
>> cases, the legal basis is the consent of the individual in question. So one
>> of the implications of GDPR is that nobody is allowed to spam you without
>> your consent.
>>
>> This *is* a law that "helps protect the innocent victims". Yes, it is
>> sometimes poorly (or intentionally wrongly) implemented, such an abusing the
>> "legitimate interest" concept included in the GDPR by many advertisers to
>> still flood you with advertising. It may also have unwanted consequences as
>> anonymizing the data of domain holders in registries, if these holders are
>> private persons. But in fact in my opinion GDPR is overall a good step in
>> protecting the rights of the individual.
>>
>> In fact, I noticed a large cut down in spam amount on my server at the time
>> GDPR went into effect, especially for the most blatant random spams sent to
>> lists of addresses obtained from nobody-knows-where.
>>
>> Maybe Americans have a different experience, as GDPR only imposes some
>> obligations on them without returning any benefits (as US does not have a
>> similar data protection law, as far as I know), but we Europeans view GDPR
>> differently, as provides some *actual benefits* to us.
>> --
>> Regards,
>>   Jaroslaw Rafa
>>   r...@rafa.eu.org
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