Hi Mark,

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your inference, but are you saying we shouldn't 
reject based on a hard fail SPF record?

Thanks, 
Mark 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Alley via mailop" <mailop@mailop.org>
To: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 10:33:50 AM
Subject: Re: [mailop] hotmail.com SPF forgot IPv6



This will definitely showcase how many receivers are still rejecting based on 
SPF failure by itself. 


There's already many threads on Reddit about this from regular consumers 
experiencing bounces they don't know what to do with, it's actually quite sad 
reading some of them. 

- Mark Alley 



On 8/18/2023 9:16 AM, Laurent S. via mailop wrote: 



Aloha hotmail,

It seems since you recently changed your SPF and switched from ~all to 
-all. It would have been great if you didn't remove at the same time 
your IPv6 ranges from it.

It seems the include:spf.protection.outlook.com was removed during the 
change. You might want to include it back.

We are starting to receive quite a few tickets that our clients suddenly 
don't receive some mails from hotmail.com

Best regards,
Laurent

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