Taavi Eomäe via mailop skrev den 2023-08-19 19:13:
On 19/08/2023 13:16, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote:
if it was hardfails, lets not ignore domain owners, ever
An SPF hardfail isn't sufficient for a reject or mark as spam either though.
As previously mentioned, DKIM can be and should be sufficient.

not if dmarc will have aligment pass

spf have policy, dkim have only pass and fails, maillist wants recipients to always see aligment in dmarc, so most maillists do take ownerships, it should really just have done arc, or atps

But there's also the use-case where a trusted ARC forwarder is forced to
cause a SPF fail,

eq arc signer have self spf fails on there own ?

but the recipient can still accept it. Without the
original letter having a DKIM signature.

imho opendmarc have not yet arc test in there source code, its planned, but its raining here in danmark right now, lets hope it will be better olso in clima changes

openarc is not stable yet, i lost fuglu, and amavisd-new missing arc-sign/arc-verify, just like it does with dkim, hope it all will be better

i am sure if amavisd did the arc, all maillists problems would be gone like a candle light

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