Going from the list provided at: https://www.isipp.com/blog/validity-fbl-charging-how-much-cost/
The only one that I really get any feedback from is Comcast, maybe Synacor. And those are few and far between. What's going to be the incentive to pay for these ARF reports? Sure, other people may be in a different boat than I am, and they may get a lot of reports from those various providers. But you've got to think that it's a very small subset of Validity users that get enough feedback messages from those providers, enough to warrant spending money for the ARF reports. Perhaps Validity is just exhausting all methods of trying to make money before folding up shop. But I can't see this as being a major money maker for them. On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 11:40 AM Opti Pub via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > I think that’s the point, mostly all of them used to allow direct setup > but don’t anymore (when universal fbl became widespread). Seznam is one of > 20+. > > Now that you have to pay for it maybe more vendors will start allowing > direct setup again? That’s what I’m wondering about. > > I guess we will see. > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 11:18 AM Gellner, Oliver via mailop < > mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > >> On 13.09.2023 at 16:06 Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: >> >> > I also think one thing that Validity may not be understanding with this >> move, and may lead to shooting themselves in the foot, the list of email >> service providers that Validity provides feedback for isn't exactly major >> players. >> > We get more feedback from Yahoo and Outlook's FBL system than we do >> Validity and Validity covers what? 21 different providers? There's no >> incentive there for me to pay for access to Validity's ARF feeds. When >> Validity stops sending ARF reports, I will simply no longer receive >> Validity ARF reports - it won't be a major loss. >> >> On top of that some of the providers like Seznam also offer feedback >> loops directly, so you don't need Validity for forwarding the reports. >> >> -- >> BR Oliver >> ________________________________ >> >> dmTECH GmbH >> Am dm-Platz 1, 76227 Karlsruhe * Postfach 10 02 34, 76232 Karlsruhe >> Telefon 0721 5592-2500 Telefax 0721 5592-2777 >> dmt...@dm.de<mailto:dmt...@dm.de> * www.dmTECH.de<http://www.dmtech.de> >> GmbH: Sitz Karlsruhe, Registergericht Mannheim, HRB 104927 >> Geschäftsführer: Christoph Werner, Martin Dallmeier, Roman Melcher >> ________________________________ >> Datenschutzrechtliche Informationen >> Wenn Sie mit uns in Kontakt treten, beispielsweise wenn Sie an unser >> ServiceCenter Fragen haben, bei uns einkaufen oder unser dialogicum in >> Karlsruhe besuchen, mit uns in einer geschäftlichen Verbindung stehen oder >> sich bei uns bewerben, verarbeiten wir personenbezogene Daten. >> Informationen unter anderem zu den konkreten Datenverarbeitungen, >> Löschfristen, Ihren Rechten sowie die Kontaktdaten unserer >> Datenschutzbeauftragten finden Sie hier< >> https://www.dm.de/datenschutzerklaerung-kommunikation-mit-externen-493832 >> >. >> _______________________________________________ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >> > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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