Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:03:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Neven Jovanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aeneid 12,838-840: Hinc genus Ausonio mixtum quod sanguine surget, supra homines, supra ire deos pietate uidebis, nec gens ulla tuos aeque celebrabit honores. In reading for _rivers of blood_, I chanced across the verses cited above. The problem seems to fit into the discussion of Vergil's philosophic views. How would you interpret the _supra ire deos pietate_? It is Juppiter who is speaking here, so it seems too easy to dismiss it as mere rhetoric. For the Greeks _supra ire deos_ could be hubris. For the Rome of Vergil's time, it could be bitter irony. I apologize for not translating the lines, and for not being able to check the commentaries. Servius says nothing ad loc. I checked for further references -- and no Roman poet uses the idea, at least not in this (or etymologically similar) wording. Neven Jovanovic Department of Classics Zagreb University Hrvatska / Croatia http://www.ffzg.hr/klafil =========================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. You will just prove to everyone that you can't read directions. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body.