In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >For example you can find this expression in very late
Not late but early; it is Ennodius who is very late. > latin poets, as Ennius > > "Malo hercle magno suo convivat sine modo" > >In Saturarum lib. I, 1 (I took the line from Vahlen's second edition of >Ennius works). > See now Edward Courtney, _The Fragmentary Latin Poets_ (Oxford, 1993), where this verse is Ennius fr. 7. >But probably it wasn't used very much in arcaic literature, because I found >this expression only in this line. There is NO other example in any of the >fragments of the Annales or of the Scenica. It is beneath the dignity of epic as Romans understood it (Sander Goldberg's contrast between Roman and Greek attitudes in this respect has already been cited on this list), and likewise of tragedy, but it is easily found in Plautus, Terence, and the comic and mimic fragments in vol. ii of Ribbeck, which is just what you would expect a colloquial word. Likewise one may look for it in satire; after all it is Persius whose use of it sparked off this discussion--not Vergil, who never uses it. >I will take a look on Naevius fragments, probably there are more examples There are two in the comic fragments (117 and 129 Ribbeck). *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Leofranc Holford-Strevens 67 St Bernard's Road usque adeone Oxford scire MEVM nihil est, nisi ME scire hoc sciat alter? OX2 6EJ tel. +44 (0)1865 552808(home)/267865(work) fax +44 (0)1865 512237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. You will just prove to everyone that you can't read directions. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body.