Interesting point about the apparent complexity/scale of the Map/nHand
development. There are a number of developers that have products for PDA
data input/mapping that are not organisation size dependendant. In two cases
that spring to mind, Cybertracker, and the recently retitled MapPad (now
ArcPad) are low cost and are designed with a variety of end-users in mind.

Both are ESRI based products, and run on either Wince (ArcPad) or Palm OS
(Cybertracker) and are suitable for the small business application user.
Both applications are worth a look at. It is worth noting that ArcPad can be
used with MapInfo tables with not much trouble at all.

As an end user that has a limited budget, and staff/volunteers with limited
technical skills, any mobile application that is resource light gets my
vote. It has to be simple cheap and effective. An excellent example of
appropriate design for end users is CyberTracker. I've not yet seen any
other PDA GPS data acquisition package that was designed for illiterate
users!

As Neil says, I too will wait until Map/nHand hits the shops before making
final judgement. 

Dale Appleton


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Neil Havermale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Tuesday, 22 August 2000 10:11
                To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
                Subject:        MI Oracle and MapInfo - Map/nHand?

                This isn't a wish but a hope for consideration.....

                In the scope of the PC/desktop and MapInfo I have attempted
to try to gain
                the advantage of Oracle for our users - large multiple
million dollar farms
                heavily capitalize and on the Net (33kb on good days).  Via
emerging site
                specific farming systems a 1000 acre farm can easily
generate a gigabyte of
                foot by foot farming detail.  I just know Oracle must be
better than
                Microsoft's Access?  

                But every time I have tried to leverage MapInfo and Oracle
for our users,
                buy the time you dig out the minimum that is needed the
Oracle/MapInfo
                environment the configuration seems hopelessly expensive,
resource
                demanding, and complex for any small business application
user to invest in.
                There seems to be this macro-trend in MapInfo that unless
that user is a
                Fortune 1000 scaled outfit, forget it? 

                The recent Map/nHand is a case in point; it seems really
neat up to the
                point that a developer discovers you'll  need 8i, all sorts
of Oracle JAVA
                modules, MapXtream JAVA, a wireless network, and some
unknown number of
                roving hooked-in PDAs.  What about all those little
companies that have
                fewer than ten field staff?  Or what about those situations
where the
                real-time radio connections are as yet unavailable?  This
opportunity of
                Map/nHand plus Oracle seems to escape the market that
brought MapInfo to the
                GIS dance - the single stand alone or small office map user
needing easy to
                use power to explore their data.  Its their leverage to get
the same
                leverage on the information age as the huge corporations...

                I guess we will need to study Ma/nHand in detail once its
fully available
                but I am concerned that all the nifty new opportunity that
MapInfo is
                developing is poorly scaled to most of MapInfo's 200,000
users?  

                MidNight Mapper
                aka Neil

                Map/nHand Info......

                MapInfo MapinHand provides a mobile connection to field
staff for real-time
                access to corporate information displayed on interactive
maps, helping field
                workers to better assess situations, to deliver the right
service solutions
                and to update data on the spot. Additional benefits include:
                *       Mobility - Workers on the move can easily stay
connected to the
                corporate database. 
                *       Improved Efficiency - Field workers can make
better-informed
                decisions by having accurate up-to-date information at hand,
eliminating the
                need to return to the office to obtain information for
unscheduled,
                emergency jobs. 
                *       Updated, Accurate Databases - Field workers can send
updated
                information on equipment or customer status to the corporate
database from
                their PDAs. 
                *       More Satisfied, Loyal Customers - Improved, faster
problem
                resolution, better customer service and more reliable field
equipment leads
                to satisfied, loyal customers. 
                *       Packaged Solution - MapinHand is ready to go. No
additional
                programming is required. MapinHand includes installation and
configuration
                of the solution on the customer site.
                Pricing and Availability
                MapInfo MapinHand will be available in September and will be
priced based on
                the number of handheld client devices. Pricing includes
installation,
                configuration, customer support and product maintenance.
MapinHand runs on
                Palm OS and Windows CE platforms. 

        
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