ArcPad is definitely for illiterate users - being an ex-user(!).
Although it is dead easy to use and has some very powerful functionality it
does not really have enterprise-capability. It is very localised in that
the tables/extracts are dumped to the device and then edited and then dumped
back again onto the server for a QA person to sort out. There is no default
built-in transactional capability. For some solutins this may be fine. I
was not aware that the product ArcPAD would edit mapinfo tables - although
the translators would bring them in ok, but by default i saw no open tab
menu option. I have not seen MapnHand but if u really have to rely on the
infamously slow Java solution at the other end with 8i then i ain't
interested in it! I hope C# is a lot faster - anyone installed ORACLE7 and
then used the ORACLE8i installation???? Add an extra 20 mins purely because
of the Java GUI.
>From my experience I think that ArcPAD is in fact very light on resource.
Get the program ($500?), dump it on the CE ($400 Aero colour) and you could
have MI or ArcView or whatever back at base checking it all.
With the advent of GPRS and 3G just what does the future hold in store for
GIS in terms of the field force? Complete raster/vector coverage retrieved
on-line in realtime? Full multimedia integration? VR functionality?
Realtime transactions - hooked back to the server? Could be interesting.
Just my two cents.....
Doug
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of APPLETON Dale
Sent: 22 August 2000 06:05
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: 'Neil Havermale'
Subject: RE: MI Oracle and MapInfo - Map/nHand?
Interesting point about the apparent complexity/scale of the Map/nHand
development. There are a number of developers that have products for PDA
data input/mapping that are not organisation size dependendant. In two cases
that spring to mind, Cybertracker, and the recently retitled MapPad (now
ArcPad) are low cost and are designed with a variety of end-users in mind.
Both are ESRI based products, and run on either Wince (ArcPad) or Palm OS
(Cybertracker) and are suitable for the small business application user.
Both applications are worth a look at. It is worth noting that ArcPad can be
used with MapInfo tables with not much trouble at all.
As an end user that has a limited budget, and staff/volunteers with limited
technical skills, any mobile application that is resource light gets my
vote. It has to be simple cheap and effective. An excellent example of
appropriate design for end users is CyberTracker. I've not yet seen any
other PDA GPS data acquisition package that was designed for illiterate
users!
As Neil says, I too will wait until Map/nHand hits the shops before making
final judgement.
Dale Appleton
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From: Neil Havermale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2000 10:11
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: MI Oracle and MapInfo - Map/nHand?
This isn't a wish but a hope for consideration.....
In the scope of the PC/desktop and MapInfo I have attempted
to try to gain
the advantage of Oracle for our users - large multiple
million dollar farms
heavily capitalize and on the Net (33kb on good days). Via
emerging site
specific farming systems a 1000 acre farm can easily
generate a gigabyte of
foot by foot farming detail. I just know Oracle must be
better than
Microsoft's Access?
But every time I have tried to leverage MapInfo and Oracle
for our users,
buy the time you dig out the minimum that is needed the
Oracle/MapInfo
environment the configuration seems hopelessly expensive,
resource
demanding, and complex for any small business application
user to invest in.
There seems to be this macro-trend in MapInfo that unless
that user is a
Fortune 1000 scaled outfit, forget it?
The recent Map/nHand is a case in point; it seems really
neat up to the
point that a developer discovers you'll need 8i, all sorts
of Oracle JAVA
modules, MapXtream JAVA, a wireless network, and some
unknown number of
roving hooked-in PDAs. What about all those little
companies that have
fewer than ten field staff? Or what about those situations
where the
real-time radio connections are as yet unavailable? This
opportunity of
Map/nHand plus Oracle seems to escape the market that
brought MapInfo to the
GIS dance - the single stand alone or small office map user
needing easy to
use power to explore their data. Its their leverage to get
the same
leverage on the information age as the huge corporations...
I guess we will need to study Ma/nHand in detail once its
fully available
but I am concerned that all the nifty new opportunity that
MapInfo is
developing is poorly scaled to most of MapInfo's 200,000
users?
MidNight Mapper
aka Neil
Map/nHand Info......
MapInfo MapinHand provides a mobile connection to field
staff for real-time
access to corporate information displayed on interactive
maps, helping field
workers to better assess situations, to deliver the right
service solutions
and to update data on the spot. Additional benefits include:
* Mobility - Workers on the move can easily stay
connected to the
corporate database.
* Improved Efficiency - Field workers can make
better-informed
decisions by having accurate up-to-date information at hand,
eliminating the
need to return to the office to obtain information for
unscheduled,
emergency jobs.
* Updated, Accurate Databases - Field workers can send
updated
information on equipment or customer status to the corporate
database from
their PDAs.
* More Satisfied, Loyal Customers - Improved, faster
problem
resolution, better customer service and more reliable field
equipment leads
to satisfied, loyal customers.
* Packaged Solution - MapinHand is ready to go. No
additional
programming is required. MapinHand includes installation and
configuration
of the solution on the customer site.
Pricing and Availability
MapInfo MapinHand will be available in September and will be
priced based on
the number of handheld client devices. Pricing includes
installation,
configuration, customer support and product maintenance.
MapinHand runs on
Palm OS and Windows CE platforms.
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