It seems a shame to spend over 80% of the budget on Travis, completely switching to GitHub Actions would be another item it would be good to add to the MapServer 2024 plan/budget and PSC vote. There were some previous discussions about this in 2020 [1]. Since then GHA seems to have advanced whilst Travis has stagnated. In addition MapCache switched away from Travis [2]. I see GDAL still uses Travis so maybe there are some advantages I'm not aware of. As far as I can tell it is only the AddressSanitizer run and PHP builds that Travis includes that aren't already in GHA [2].
Seth [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapserver-dev/2020-November/016302.html [2] https://github.com/MapServer/mapcache/pull/274 [3] https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/blob/main/.travis.yml On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > For 2023, some of the funds were used for the Travis subscription for > mapserver which is $828/yr (69/mo). So $172 would be available for the rest > of the year. The PayPal donation would carry over. Project funds do not. > > Mike > > > -- > Michael Smith > OSGeo Treasurer > [email protected] > > > *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:31 AM > *To: *Michael Smith <[email protected]> > *Cc: *Even Rouault <[email protected]>, Seth G > <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning > > Is there any chance of accessing the FY23 $'s? Problem is that we don't have > a project bank account. > > There was also a $1,310 donation via PayPal in March 2022 that looks to have > come in via OSGeo via PayPal but was earmarked specifically for MapServer. > Mike, I can send you a copy of that email if you'd like. > > --Steve > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Proposed default for FY24 per project is $1000 USD. Yes you can request more >> than that but there should be a plan for the additional amounts voted by PSC. >> >> Funds from donation are 295.45 (looks like it was mostly in 2021 and a bit >> in 2022). >> >> Mike >> >> >> - >> Michael Smith >> OSGeo Treasurer >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:56 PM >> *To: *Even Rouault <[email protected]>, Michael Smith >> <[email protected]> >> *Cc: *Seth G <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning >> >> Great ideas, I'd support both of them. The question becomes how much to >> allocate in each instance. I guess some basic questions I'd have (and maybe >> Mike knows) are: >> 1. What's that standard per project budget allocation from OSGeo? I thought >> it was something like $1,500 but I'm not sure. >> 2. Is there any chance of getting $'s beyond that? The 2020 budget >> referenced earlier in the thread was submitted to the board but it was >> pretty clear there was no opportunity to secure funding beyond that base >> amount. >> 3. We have some $'s that have been donated via Paypal. I don't know the >> amount but there should be at least $1,000 available and that could be >> considered as another means of paying for this work. Again, Mike do you know >> what the MapServer balance is via the donate button? >> 4. We are still in 2023 - can we allocate this years' standard budget >> allocation to this work or otherwise roll it over? I'd like to know what our >> options are. We've not done a good job of taking advantage of the OSGeo >> funds available, even if they are somewhat limited. >> Seth, what level of support do you think you'd need? >> >> --Steve >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM Even Rouault via MapServer-dev >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Seth, >>> >>> thanks for putting that together. The 2 topics (workshop and CITE tests) >>> look like excellent topics to be budgeted. >>> >>> Even >>> >>> Le 07/12/2023 à 11:02, Seth G via MapServer-dev a écrit : >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I've created a draft page for the budget at >>> > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget >>> > >>> > I've also created two wiki pages for two items I'd like to work on next >>> > year, and to request some funds to help set aside time to work on them. >>> > Both were discussed with other members of the PSC at the recent OSGeo >>> > Community Sprint: >>> > >>> > A new MapServer Workshop, see details at >>> > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-Workshop-2024 >>> > This would target FOSS4G Europe next year. The deadline for submission is >>> > January 14th 2024 so it would be good to sort out a budget as soon as >>> > possible to be able to submit. Workshops are 4 hours in length. >>> > >>> > Automating and refreshing the MapServer OGC CITE tests - see >>> > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-OGC-CITE-Tests >>> > >>> > Let me know your thoughts on the above, >>> > >>> > Seth >>> > -- >>> > web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net >>> > twitter: @geographika >>> > >>> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Seth G wrote: >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> A wiki page sounds a good start. Increased test coverage and OGC Maps >>> >> support would be two items I'd like to propose. >>> >> We could also maybe use a GitHub Discussions poll to allow users to >>> >> vote on some open issues to look at fixing? >>> >> >>> >> I think any unused funds for the year remain with OSGeo and can't be >>> >> used for future years. Is it an option to get a 2023 budget approved to >>> >> avoid losing these funds for this year? >>> >> There is the OSGeo Codesprint in Vienna next week, and 5 of the PSC >>> >> members will be there so we could arrange a PSC meeting and sign things >>> >> off quite quickly. >>> >> >>> >> Seth >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net >>> >> twitter: @geographika >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 10:44 PM, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) via MapServer-dev >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> This is a good idea and something that we haven't done in some time. >>> >>> There was a 2020 budget outline >>> >>> (https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/OSGeo-2020-Budget) that >>> >>> was put together as an ask from the board. If I recall correctly, they >>> >>> basically only allocated the normal per project amount to the project. >>> >>> That's funding we've not taken explicit advantage of most years >>> >>> although I don't know what happens to those $'s if they go unclaimed. >>> >>> There is also a donation balance that could/should be tapped to fund >>> >>> activities. >>> >>> >>> >>> --Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: MapServer-dev <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> >>> Of Jeff McKenna via MapServer-dev >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 1:00 PM >>> >>> To: 'MapServer Dev Mailing List' <[email protected]> >>> >>> Subject: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi MapServer community (devs, users, packagers, promoters, all), >>> >>> >>> >>> I see other projects beginning early discussions on planning for 2024 >>> >>> budget spending. I would like to start a wiki page for the 2024 budget >>> >>> for MapServer. I am planning on including those items >>> >>> never-funded-yet-heavily-relied-upon-by-users such as releases, >>> >>> packaging, testing/CI infrastructure maintenance, and documentation, as >>> >>> well as source code contributions (in other words, including the full >>> >>> dev community of MapServer in the budget). >>> >>> >>> >>> I think 2024 is a good time to create a realistic budget for MapServer, >>> >>> and then share that publicly with the FOSS4G community. I think we'd >>> >>> be happily surprised that organizations are willing to support the >>> >>> sustainability of MapServer. Worst-case scenario is that we have a >>> >>> publicly available realistic view of the cost of keeping MapServer >>> >>> reliable, secure, and fast, that we can expand upon in future years. >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy to read other thoughts here, from everyone passionate about >>> >>> MapServer. >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> -jeff >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jeff McKenna >>> >>> GatewayGeo: Developers of MS4W, & offering MapServer Consulting/Dev >>> >>> co-founder of FOSS4G >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> MapServer-dev mailing list >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > MapServer-dev mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.spatialys.com >>> My software is free, but my time generally not. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MapServer-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >>> >>>
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