I don't have any additions. On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 3:48 AM Seth G <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all, > > It seems many projects have submitted their budget requests for next year > to OSGeo - I presume there is an end-of-year deadline to be met? > > I've added in items from this thread to > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget > Jeff has discussed the 8.2 release for January, so I've added in the > release manager role. I guess the requested amount depends upon if there > are also plans for additional patch releases in 2024 and MapCache releases. > Once this value is finalised it would be good to take a vote and submit to > OSGeo in the next few days. Alternatively we can just go with the 2021 > value and vote now. If there are any other items to add please edit the > page. > > I'll also look at creating a page of other ideas for MapServer for > sponsorship opportunities, similar to the GeoTools one at > https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/GeoTools-2024-Sponsorship-Opportunities > > Seth > > -- > web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net > twitter: @geographika > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Even Rouault wrote: > > Hi, > > I agree we should cut use of Travis if the budget for MapServer is so low. > Yes, the specificity of the Travis CI checks is to test 2 versions of PHP, > but I suspect this could be migrated to GHA if needed (e.g perhaps using > https://github.com/setup-php/setup-php). For AddressSanitizer, this would > be trivial to port to GHA. > > (GDAL only use of Travis CI is to test exotic architectures, in particular > ARM64, which aren't available on GHA. But GDAL only uses the OSGeo provided > budget for that, so that's OK for it) > > Even > Le 14/12/2023 à 16:18, Seth G a écrit : > > It seems a shame to spend over 80% of the budget on Travis, completely > switching to GitHub Actions would be another item it would be good to add > to the MapServer 2024 plan/budget and PSC vote. > There were some previous discussions about this in 2020 [1]. Since then > GHA seems to have advanced whilst Travis has stagnated. In addition > MapCache switched away from Travis [2]. I see GDAL still uses Travis so > maybe there are some advantages I'm not aware of. > As far as I can tell it is only the AddressSanitizer run and PHP builds > that Travis includes that aren't already in GHA [2]. > > Seth > > [1] > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapserver-dev/2020-November/016302.html > [2] https://github.com/MapServer/mapcache/pull/274 > [3] https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/blob/main/.travis.yml > > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > > For 2023, some of the funds were used for the Travis subscription for > mapserver which is $828/yr (69/mo). So $172 would be available for the rest > of the year. The PayPal donation would carry over. Project funds do not. > > > > Mike > > > > > > -- > > Michael Smith > > OSGeo Treasurer > > [email protected] > > > > > > *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:31 AM > *To: *Michael Smith <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > *Cc: *Even Rouault <[email protected]> > <[email protected]>, Seth G <[email protected]> > <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning > > > > Is there any chance of accessing the FY23 $'s? Problem is that we don't > have a project bank account. > > > > There was also a $1,310 donation via PayPal in March 2022 that looks to > have come in via OSGeo via PayPal but was earmarked specifically for > MapServer. Mike, I can send you a copy of that email if you'd like. > > > > --Steve > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael Smith < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Proposed default for FY24 per project is $1000 USD. Yes you can request > more than that but there should be a plan for the additional amounts voted > by PSC. > > > > Funds from donation are 295.45 (looks like it was mostly in 2021 and a bit > in 2022). > > > > Mike > > > > > > - > > Michael Smith > > OSGeo Treasurer > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> > *Date: *Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:56 PM > *To: *Even Rouault <[email protected]>, Michael Smith < > [email protected]> > *Cc: *Seth G <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs < > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning > > > > Great ideas, I'd support both of them. The question becomes how much to > allocate in each instance. I guess some basic questions I'd have (and maybe > Mike knows) are: > > 1. What's that standard per project budget allocation from OSGeo? I > thought it was something like $1,500 but I'm not sure. > 2. Is there any chance of getting $'s beyond that? The 2020 budget > referenced earlier in the thread was submitted to the board but it was > pretty clear there was no opportunity to secure funding beyond that base > amount. > 3. We have some $'s that have been donated via Paypal. I don't know > the amount but there should be at least $1,000 available and that could be > considered as another means of paying for this work. Again, Mike do you > know what the MapServer balance is via the donate button? > 4. We are still in 2023 - can we allocate this years' standard budget > allocation to this work or otherwise roll it over? I'd like to know what > our options are. We've not done a good job of taking advantage of the OSGeo > funds available, even if they are somewhat limited. > > Seth, what level of support do you think you'd need? > > > > --Steve > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM Even Rouault via MapServer-dev < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Seth, > > thanks for putting that together. The 2 topics (workshop and CITE tests) > look like excellent topics to be budgeted. > > Even > > Le 07/12/2023 à 11:02, Seth G via MapServer-dev a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > I've created a draft page for the budget at > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget > > > > I've also created two wiki pages for two items I'd like to work on next > year, and to request some funds to help set aside time to work on them. > Both were discussed with other members of the PSC at the recent OSGeo > Community Sprint: > > > > A new MapServer Workshop, see details at > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-Workshop-2024 > > This would target FOSS4G Europe next year. The deadline for submission > is January 14th 2024 so it would be good to sort out a budget as soon as > possible to be able to submit. Workshops are 4 hours in length. > > > > Automating and refreshing the MapServer OGC CITE tests - see > https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-OGC-CITE-Tests > > > > Let me know your thoughts on the above, > > > > Seth > > -- > > web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net > > twitter: @geographika > > > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Seth G wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> A wiki page sounds a good start. Increased test coverage and OGC Maps > >> support would be two items I'd like to propose. > >> We could also maybe use a GitHub Discussions poll to allow users to > >> vote on some open issues to look at fixing? > >> > >> I think any unused funds for the year remain with OSGeo and can't be > >> used for future years. Is it an option to get a 2023 budget approved to > >> avoid losing these funds for this year? > >> There is the OSGeo Codesprint in Vienna next week, and 5 of the PSC > >> members will be there so we could arrange a PSC meeting and sign things > >> off quite quickly. > >> > >> Seth > >> > >> -- > >> web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net > >> twitter: @geographika > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 10:44 PM, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) via > MapServer-dev wrote: > >>> This is a good idea and something that we haven't done in some time. > >>> There was a 2020 budget outline > >>> (https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/OSGeo-2020-Budget) that > >>> was put together as an ask from the board. If I recall correctly, they > >>> basically only allocated the normal per project amount to the project. > >>> That's funding we've not taken explicit advantage of most years > >>> although I don't know what happens to those $'s if they go unclaimed. > >>> There is also a donation balance that could/should be tapped to fund > >>> activities. > >>> > >>> --Steve > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: MapServer-dev <[email protected]> On Behalf > >>> Of Jeff McKenna via MapServer-dev > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 1:00 PM > >>> To: 'MapServer Dev Mailing List' <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning > >>> > >>> Hi MapServer community (devs, users, packagers, promoters, all), > >>> > >>> I see other projects beginning early discussions on planning for 2024 > >>> budget spending. I would like to start a wiki page for the 2024 budget > >>> for MapServer. I am planning on including those items > >>> never-funded-yet-heavily-relied-upon-by-users such as releases, > >>> packaging, testing/CI infrastructure maintenance, and documentation, as > >>> well as source code contributions (in other words, including the full > >>> dev community of MapServer in the budget). > >>> > >>> I think 2024 is a good time to create a realistic budget for MapServer, > >>> and then share that publicly with the FOSS4G community. I think we'd > >>> be happily surprised that organizations are willing to support the > >>> sustainability of MapServer. Worst-case scenario is that we have a > >>> publicly available realistic view of the cost of keeping MapServer > >>> reliable, secure, and fast, that we can expand upon in future years. > >>> > >>> Happy to read other thoughts here, from everyone passionate about > MapServer. > >>> > >>> thanks! > >>> > >>> -jeff > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jeff McKenna > >>> GatewayGeo: Developers of MS4W, & offering MapServer Consulting/Dev > >>> co-founder of FOSS4G > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> MapServer-dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > MapServer-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev > > -- > http://www.spatialys.com > My software is free, but my time generally not. > > _______________________________________________ > MapServer-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev > > > > -- http://www.spatialys.com > My software is free, but my time generally not. > > >
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