Anyone know that deadline? On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 10:05 AM Steve Lime <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't have any additions. > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 3:48 AM Seth G <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> It seems many projects have submitted their budget requests for next year >> to OSGeo - I presume there is an end-of-year deadline to be met? >> >> I've added in items from this thread to >> https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget >> Jeff has discussed the 8.2 release for January, so I've added in the >> release manager role. I guess the requested amount depends upon if there >> are also plans for additional patch releases in 2024 and MapCache releases. >> Once this value is finalised it would be good to take a vote and submit >> to OSGeo in the next few days. Alternatively we can just go with the 2021 >> value and vote now. If there are any other items to add please edit the >> page. >> >> I'll also look at creating a page of other ideas for MapServer for >> sponsorship opportunities, similar to the GeoTools one at >> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/GeoTools-2024-Sponsorship-Opportunities >> >> Seth >> >> -- >> web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net >> twitter: @geographika >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Even Rouault wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I agree we should cut use of Travis if the budget for MapServer is so >> low. Yes, the specificity of the Travis CI checks is to test 2 versions of >> PHP, but I suspect this could be migrated to GHA if needed (e.g perhaps >> using https://github.com/setup-php/setup-php). For AddressSanitizer, >> this would be trivial to port to GHA. >> >> (GDAL only use of Travis CI is to test exotic architectures, in >> particular ARM64, which aren't available on GHA. But GDAL only uses the >> OSGeo provided budget for that, so that's OK for it) >> >> Even >> Le 14/12/2023 à 16:18, Seth G a écrit : >> >> It seems a shame to spend over 80% of the budget on Travis, completely >> switching to GitHub Actions would be another item it would be good to add >> to the MapServer 2024 plan/budget and PSC vote. >> There were some previous discussions about this in 2020 [1]. Since then >> GHA seems to have advanced whilst Travis has stagnated. In addition >> MapCache switched away from Travis [2]. I see GDAL still uses Travis so >> maybe there are some advantages I'm not aware of. >> As far as I can tell it is only the AddressSanitizer run and PHP builds >> that Travis includes that aren't already in GHA [2]. >> >> Seth >> >> [1] >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapserver-dev/2020-November/016302.html >> [2] https://github.com/MapServer/mapcache/pull/274 >> [3] https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/blob/main/.travis.yml >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> >> For 2023, some of the funds were used for the Travis subscription for >> mapserver which is $828/yr (69/mo). So $172 would be available for the rest >> of the year. The PayPal donation would carry over. Project funds do not. >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Smith >> >> OSGeo Treasurer >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:31 AM >> *To: *Michael Smith <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Cc: *Even Rouault <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]>, Seth G <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning >> >> >> >> Is there any chance of accessing the FY23 $'s? Problem is that we don't >> have a project bank account. >> >> >> >> There was also a $1,310 donation via PayPal in March 2022 that looks to >> have come in via OSGeo via PayPal but was earmarked specifically for >> MapServer. Mike, I can send you a copy of that email if you'd like. >> >> >> >> --Steve >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael Smith < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Proposed default for FY24 per project is $1000 USD. Yes you can request >> more than that but there should be a plan for the additional amounts voted >> by PSC. >> >> >> >> Funds from donation are 295.45 (looks like it was mostly in 2021 and a >> bit in 2022). >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> Michael Smith >> >> OSGeo Treasurer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Steve Lime <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:56 PM >> *To: *Even Rouault <[email protected]>, Michael Smith < >> [email protected]> >> *Cc: *Seth G <[email protected]>, MapServer Devs < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning >> >> >> >> Great ideas, I'd support both of them. The question becomes how much to >> allocate in each instance. I guess some basic questions I'd have (and maybe >> Mike knows) are: >> >> 1. What's that standard per project budget allocation from OSGeo? I >> thought it was something like $1,500 but I'm not sure. >> 2. Is there any chance of getting $'s beyond that? The 2020 budget >> referenced earlier in the thread was submitted to the board but it was >> pretty clear there was no opportunity to secure funding beyond that base >> amount. >> 3. We have some $'s that have been donated via Paypal. I don't know >> the amount but there should be at least $1,000 available and that could be >> considered as another means of paying for this work. Again, Mike do you >> know what the MapServer balance is via the donate button? >> 4. We are still in 2023 - can we allocate this years' standard budget >> allocation to this work or otherwise roll it over? I'd like to know what >> our options are. We've not done a good job of taking advantage of the >> OSGeo >> funds available, even if they are somewhat limited. >> >> Seth, what level of support do you think you'd need? >> >> >> >> --Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM Even Rouault via MapServer-dev < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Seth, >> >> thanks for putting that together. The 2 topics (workshop and CITE tests) >> look like excellent topics to be budgeted. >> >> Even >> >> Le 07/12/2023 à 11:02, Seth G via MapServer-dev a écrit : >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I've created a draft page for the budget at >> https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget >> > >> > I've also created two wiki pages for two items I'd like to work on next >> year, and to request some funds to help set aside time to work on them. >> Both were discussed with other members of the PSC at the recent OSGeo >> Community Sprint: >> > >> > A new MapServer Workshop, see details at >> https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-Workshop-2024 >> > This would target FOSS4G Europe next year. The deadline for submission >> is January 14th 2024 so it would be good to sort out a budget as soon as >> possible to be able to submit. Workshops are 4 hours in length. >> > >> > Automating and refreshing the MapServer OGC CITE tests - see >> https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-OGC-CITE-Tests >> > >> > Let me know your thoughts on the above, >> > >> > Seth >> > -- >> > web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net >> > twitter: @geographika >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Seth G wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> A wiki page sounds a good start. Increased test coverage and OGC Maps >> >> support would be two items I'd like to propose. >> >> We could also maybe use a GitHub Discussions poll to allow users to >> >> vote on some open issues to look at fixing? >> >> >> >> I think any unused funds for the year remain with OSGeo and can't be >> >> used for future years. Is it an option to get a 2023 budget approved to >> >> avoid losing these funds for this year? >> >> There is the OSGeo Codesprint in Vienna next week, and 5 of the PSC >> >> members will be there so we could arrange a PSC meeting and sign things >> >> off quite quickly. >> >> >> >> Seth >> >> >> >> -- >> >> web:https://geographika.net & https://mapserverstudio.net >> >> twitter: @geographika >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 10:44 PM, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) via >> MapServer-dev wrote: >> >>> This is a good idea and something that we haven't done in some time. >> >>> There was a 2020 budget outline >> >>> (https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/OSGeo-2020-Budget) that >> >>> was put together as an ask from the board. If I recall correctly, they >> >>> basically only allocated the normal per project amount to the project. >> >>> That's funding we've not taken explicit advantage of most years >> >>> although I don't know what happens to those $'s if they go unclaimed. >> >>> There is also a donation balance that could/should be tapped to fund >> >>> activities. >> >>> >> >>> --Steve >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: MapServer-dev <[email protected]> On Behalf >> >>> Of Jeff McKenna via MapServer-dev >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 1:00 PM >> >>> To: 'MapServer Dev Mailing List' <[email protected]> >> >>> Subject: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning >> >>> >> >>> Hi MapServer community (devs, users, packagers, promoters, all), >> >>> >> >>> I see other projects beginning early discussions on planning for 2024 >> >>> budget spending. I would like to start a wiki page for the 2024 >> budget >> >>> for MapServer. I am planning on including those items >> >>> never-funded-yet-heavily-relied-upon-by-users such as releases, >> >>> packaging, testing/CI infrastructure maintenance, and documentation, >> as >> >>> well as source code contributions (in other words, including the full >> >>> dev community of MapServer in the budget). >> >>> >> >>> I think 2024 is a good time to create a realistic budget for >> MapServer, >> >>> and then share that publicly with the FOSS4G community. I think we'd >> >>> be happily surprised that organizations are willing to support the >> >>> sustainability of MapServer. Worst-case scenario is that we have a >> >>> publicly available realistic view of the cost of keeping MapServer >> >>> reliable, secure, and fast, that we can expand upon in future years. >> >>> >> >>> Happy to read other thoughts here, from everyone passionate about >> MapServer. >> >>> >> >>> thanks! >> >>> >> >>> -jeff >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Jeff McKenna >> >>> GatewayGeo: Developers of MS4W, & offering MapServer Consulting/Dev >> >>> co-founder of FOSS4G >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> MapServer-dev mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > MapServer-dev mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >> >> -- >> http://www.spatialys.com >> My software is free, but my time generally not. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MapServer-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-dev >> >> >> >> -- http://www.spatialys.com >> My software is free, but my time generally not. >> >> >>
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