Thanks Tom, for your lucid words. To understand the whole issue about
"BrOffice gate" need much more than the arrogance of some leaders.

Regards,

Luiz Oliveira

2011/6/14 Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>

> Hi :)
> There is a lot of extreme emotion about this area.  BrOffice seems to have
> been
> excellent for many years, gained a good reputation, good people and did
> great
> work.  Inevitably any large community will have misunderstandings and
> different
> people heading in different directions but all believing they are doing the
> best
> for the whole community.
>
>
> Sometimes people are too enthusiastic and haven't noticed what already
> exists or
> how their ideas might already be being implemented.  I think it's best to
> guide
> people into what is already going on so that they can channel their
> enthusiasm
> in a positive direction.  The post that sparked this controversy was
> clearly not
> written in the person native language so the misunderstanding should be
> easier
> to clarify on Brazilian lists.
>
>
> Most of the good stuff about BrOffice seems to have merged into the wider
> community here at TDF in the LibreOffice community.  It has enriched the
> wider
> community considerably.  Most of the good people are here now, and the
> structures, websites, the passion and so on.  It does still retain a unique
> identity even if the name has changed.  It's influencing the wider
> community too
> now :)
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "luizh...@gmail.com" <luizh...@gmail.com>
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 0:53:11
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice
> International.
>
> I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not
> applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question.
> Although
> I do not believe that TDF is so alienated.
>
> Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the
> BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not
> believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this
> theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion.
>
> "Brazil, show your face .."
>
> Rgds,
>
> Luiz Oliveira
>
> 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli <italo.vign...@gmail.com>
>
> > On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >  Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive
> >> message.
> >>
> >
> > I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see
> > any unspoken intentions behind it.
> >
> > In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive
> > attitude vs new proposals.
> >
> > Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your
> > message is clearly hiding something.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
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