What is needed here is a donation meter design and possible goals definition: i.e 50k funds the infrastructure for one year, etc.
Could we focus on this instead of general considerations that should rather take place on discuss@ ? Thanks, Charles. Le 2 oct. 2012 18:47, "Tom Davies" <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit : > Hi :) > I was following in the spirit of Tim's post. I suspect that most > contributors are not yet members. The membership committee have been > working hard to process the applications but there is a bit of a > bottle-neck. It's not easy as there is probably a vast amount to process > and far too few people able to process them. TDF is growing fast. Quite > how fast is unlikely to be easily quantifiable (as Tim was hinting) and > whether that growth is going to continue at the same rate. Continued > exponential growth seems highly unlikely and possibly impossible otherwise > it would soon be more than the number of people currently living and > recently deceased. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> > >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> > >Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com>; " > marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> > >Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 17:31 > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter > > > >Tom, the number of members of TDF is not the same as the number of > contributors to LibreOffice, and probably the two numbers are not even > related. Don't mix apples and oranges. > > > >Jean > > > >On 02/10/2012, at 18:19, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> Hi :) > >> I agree that TDF is growing fast but is tripling in size each year > realistic?? > >> > >> In the first year it started with 20 people and 1 release in one > branch. Here we are 2 years later with 'a few' more than 180 people and > having gone through to the 4 branches with around 5-6 releases per branch > (ie a few more than 9 releases). > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com> > >>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org > >>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 16:03 > >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter > >>> > >>> On 10/02/2012 04:59 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > >>>> Le lundi 01 octobre 2012 à 09:55 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit : > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> > >>>>> our fundraising campaign officially starts today. Like last time, I'd > >>>>> like to add a donation meter to our websites, so people can donate > >>>>> towards a goal. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am not a friend of unrealistic values, just to keep people donating > >>>>> ("We want one million dollars"). However, since this time, the main > goal > >>>>> is to define our budget for 2013, and therefore determining the > >>>>> community's resources for next year, I'd like to come up with a > senseful > >>>>> symbolic value. Comparing TDF with any other major free software > >>>>> organization, our budget is rather low. > >>>>> > >>>>> As an example: We have XY language projects, and each of them should > >>>>> have a budget of Z, that makes XYZ € to raise. > >>>>> > >>>>> Or: We have XY million downloads, and if we get 0,01 € per download, > we > >>>>> want to raise XYZ €. > >>>>> > >>>>> Anyone has some nice numbers we can work with? > >>>> I'd go for a total of 500K (max). This being said I think the > marketing > >>>> list is somewhat unaware of the needed volumes. > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> > >>>> Charles. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Florian > >>>>> > >>>>> -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) > >>>>> Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > >>>>> The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany > >>>>> Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > >>>>> Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> I do not know what the current yearly cost is, but: > >>> > >>> Why not take the current hardware and Internet costs and triple it. > >>> Then add in the same for projected real marketing costs and see what > >>> that give you. > >>> Then take that figure and add in another 50%. > >>> > >>> That could give a more "realistic" figure for 2012 "donations needed" > figure. After that you could increase it by another 20% to 50% for 2013. > >>> > >>> Any figure that TDF asks for must have a realistic amount and can be > justified with numbers for each line item for the current needs and the > projected needs for TDF. Otherwise, having a super large figure listed > will be either a waste of time or worse for the marketing aspect of LO and > its reputation. > >>> > >>> > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > >Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted