Public announcements are obviously marketing. Someone repeatedly complaining that software comes with bugs on the marketing list is not related to marketing.
Charles. Le 4 oct. 2012 14:48, "Tom Davies" <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit : > Hi :) > Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise that public announcements and press releases > have nothing to do with marketing. > Apols and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> > >To: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> > >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:30 > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: > [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2 > > > >Tom, > > > >The points you are making are repeated at each release. I cannot really > >help if you refuse to understand how we work or how software development > >works. But as we are on the marketing list we need to work on marketing > and > >not lose our time with recurring rants that are not related to marketing. > > > >We must discipline ourselves if we are on this list and post on it: we > work > >on marketing and stay focused on it. > > > >Thank you for your understanding. > > > >Charles. > > > >Charles. > >Le 4 oct. 2012 14:01, "Tom Davies" <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit : > > > >> Hi :) > >> Again. The only advantage listed for the new release in the newest > branch > >> of LO is that it's "more stable". What is it more stable than? Is it > more > >> stable than the 3.5.6? > >> > >> Putting anything mentioning bug-fixes and possible regressions just > makes > >> people wonder what new bugs and new regressions are likely to appear in > >> this new release. Most profitable software companies avoid mentioning > the > >> possibility that their new software might be buggy and have new > regressions > >> despite the fact we know that both are likely. I think we should avoid > >> mentioning it too until they become more open and honest about the > >> possibility. > >> > >> > >> Possibly marginally better to say "latest" rather than "last" unless you > >> include a date. "Last" sounds fairly finally and hints that it > happened a > >> long time ago. I don't know why. Both really mean roughly the same > thing > >> if you look them up in a dictionary. > >> > >> > >> Again there are tons of advantages to the newest branch but stability is > >> not one of them. If people want stability then they are better off > chosing > >> the latest release in the older branch. If they want, for example, > better > >> compatibility with "other" formats and programs (ie such as MS's) then > >> 3.6.x is probably best. > >> > >> > >> Please. Can we have those circular or just plain wrong arguments again > >> about > >> 1. "I haven't noticed any bugs so far and few people have reported > >> bugs". Therefore no bugs really exist because things don't exist until > >> after they have been discovered. For example, the water on Mars didn't > >> exist until there were photos of it. > >> > >> 2. "Any bugs found need to be reported against the earliest version of > >> LO/OOo they can be found in." > >> > >> 3. Rinse and repeat. > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. "It must be more stable. It's newer." Therefore it must be more > >> stable. > >> > >> 2. "We must expect new branches to have more bugs as a result of > having > >> much greater functionality" > >> 3. "Older branches focus on bug-fixes and therefore tend to have less > new > >> added functionality" > >> > >> 4. Therefore "the only thing we can say about new branches is that they > >> are more stable." > >> > >> > >> 1. "All software has bugs." [Perhaps implying that LO is no more > stable > >> than java] > >> > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> >From: Italo Vignoli <italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org> > >> >To: annou...@documentfoundation.org > >> >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:05 > >> >Subject: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice > >> 3.6.2 > >> > > >> >Berlin, October 4, 2012 - The Document Foundation (TDF) announces > >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2, for Windows, MacOS and Linux, solving bugs and > >> >regressions and further improving the stability of the program for > >> >corporate deployments. The best free office suite ever is quickly > >> >becoming the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites, > >> >thanks to the quickly growing feature set and the improved > >> >interoperability with proprietary software. > >> > > >> >The growing number of LibreOffice adoptions by private and public > >> >enterprises is a demonstration of the improvements brought to the > legacy > >> >code by TDF, thanks to over 500 developers who are focusing on > stability > >> >and quality (in addition to new exciting features). > >> > > >> >The last public administration to migrate has been the city of > Limerick, > >> >Ireland's third largest city, where LibreOffice is now used on all 450 > >> >desktops in use at the city's six main locations including the three > >> >public libraries, the fire department, the municipal museum and the > City > >> >Gallery of Art. > >> > > >> >The community behind LibreOffice will gather in Berlin for the second > >> >LiboCon from October 17 to October 19. During three days, company > >> >representatives and volunteers will discuss their experiences, learning > >> >from each other in the true spirit of the community. > >> > > >> >Registration for the conference end on October 8, Registration for the > >> >conference ends on October the 8th. If you want to join in, please > >> >register at this address: > http://conference.libreoffice.org/registration. > >> > > >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2 is available for immediate download from the > following > >> >link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice > >> >are available from the following link: > >> >http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. > >> > > >> >Change logs are available at > >> > > >> > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.1.log > >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.1) and > >> > > >> > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.2.log > >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.2). > >> > > >> >Short link to The Document Foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-jV. > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Italo Vignoli - Director > >> >phone +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli > >> >email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org > >> >The Document Foundation > >> >Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany > >> >Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > >> >Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > announce+h...@documentfoundation.org > >> >Problems? > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >> >List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > >> Problems? > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >> Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > >> deleted > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > >Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
