I read your message three times actually. And I do maintain what I wrote. Thanks,
Charles. Le jeudi 04 octobre 2012 à 14:20 +0100, Tom Davies a écrit : > Hi :) > Hmm, try reading my post rather than ignoring it and pretending it > says soemthing other than what it really says. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > From: Charles-H. Schulz > <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> > To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" > <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> > Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:54 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: > [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice > 3.6.2 > > > Public announcements are obviously marketing. Someone > repeatedly > complaining that software comes with bugs on the marketing > list is not > related to marketing. > > Charles. > Le 4 oct. 2012 14:48, "Tom Davies" <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a > écrit : > > > Hi :) > > Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise that public announcements and > press releases > > have nothing to do with marketing. > > Apols and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Charles-H. Schulz > <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> > > >To: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" > <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> > > >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 13:30 > > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? > Fw: > > [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice > 3.6.2 > > > > > >Tom, > > > > > >The points you are making are repeated at each release. I > cannot really > > >help if you refuse to understand how we work or how > software development > > >works. But as we are on the marketing list we need to work > on marketing > > and > > >not lose our time with recurring rants that are not related > to marketing. > > > > > >We must discipline ourselves if we are on this list and > post on it: we > > work > > >on marketing and stay focused on it. > > > > > >Thank you for your understanding. > > > > > >Charles. > > > > > >Charles. > > >Le 4 oct. 2012 14:01, "Tom Davies" > <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit : > > > > > >> Hi :) > > >> Again. The only advantage listed for the new release in > the newest > > branch > > >> of LO is that it's "more stable". What is it more stable > than? Is it > > more > > >> stable than the 3.5.6? > > >> > > >> Putting anything mentioning bug-fixes and possible > regressions just > > makes > > >> people wonder what new bugs and new regressions are > likely to appear in > > >> this new release. Most profitable software companies > avoid mentioning > > the > > >> possibility that their new software might be buggy and > have new > > regressions > > >> despite the fact we know that both are likely. I think > we should avoid > > >> mentioning it too until they become more open and honest > about the > > >> possibility. > > >> > > >> > > >> Possibly marginally better to say "latest" rather than > "last" unless you > > >> include a date. "Last" sounds fairly finally and hints > that it > > happened a > > >> long time ago. I don't know why. Both really mean > roughly the same > > thing > > >> if you look them up in a dictionary. > > >> > > >> > > >> Again there are tons of advantages to the newest branch > but stability is > > >> not one of them. If people want stability then they are > better off > > chosing > > >> the latest release in the older branch. If they want, > for example, > > better > > >> compatibility with "other" formats and programs (ie such > as MS's) then > > >> 3.6.x is probably best. > > >> > > >> > > >> Please. Can we have those circular or just plain wrong > arguments again > > >> about > > >> 1. "I haven't noticed any bugs so far and few people > have reported > > >> bugs". Therefore no bugs really exist because things > don't exist until > > >> after they have been discovered. For example, the water > on Mars didn't > > >> exist until there were photos of it. > > >> > > >> 2. "Any bugs found need to be reported against the > earliest version of > > >> LO/OOo they can be found in." > > >> > > >> 3. Rinse and repeat. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 1. "It must be more stable. It's newer." Therefore it > must be more > > >> stable. > > >> > > >> 2. "We must expect new branches to have more bugs as a > result of > > having > > >> much greater functionality" > > >> 3. "Older branches focus on bug-fixes and therefore tend > to have less > > new > > >> added functionality" > > >> > > >> 4. Therefore "the only thing we can say about new > branches is that they > > >> are more stable." > > >> > > >> > > >> 1. "All software has bugs." [Perhaps implying that LO > is no more > > stable > > >> than java] > > >> > > >> Regards from > > >> Tom :) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > >> >From: Italo Vignoli > <italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org> > > >> >To: annou...@documentfoundation.org > > >> >Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 12:05 > > >> >Subject: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation > announces LibreOffice > > >> 3.6.2 > > >> > > > >> >Berlin, October 4, 2012 - The Document Foundation (TDF) > announces > > >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2, for Windows, MacOS and Linux, solving > bugs and > > >> >regressions and further improving the stability of the > program for > > >> >corporate deployments. The best free office suite ever > is quickly > > >> >becoming the de facto standard for migrations to free > office suites, > > >> >thanks to the quickly growing feature set and the > improved > > >> >interoperability with proprietary software. > > >> > > > >> >The growing number of LibreOffice adoptions by private > and public > > >> >enterprises is a demonstration of the improvements > brought to the > > legacy > > >> >code by TDF, thanks to over 500 developers who are > focusing on > > stability > > >> >and quality (in addition to new exciting features). > > >> > > > >> >The last public administration to migrate has been the > city of > > Limerick, > > >> >Ireland's third largest city, where LibreOffice is now > used on all 450 > > >> >desktops in use at the city's six main locations > including the three > > >> >public libraries, the fire department, the municipal > museum and the > > City > > >> >Gallery of Art. > > >> > > > >> >The community behind LibreOffice will gather in Berlin > for the second > > >> >LiboCon from October 17 to October 19. During three > days, company > > >> >representatives and volunteers will discuss their > experiences, learning > > >> >from each other in the true spirit of the community. > > >> > > > >> >Registration for the conference end on October 8, > Registration for the > > >> >conference ends on October the 8th. If you want to join > in, please > > >> >register at this address: > > http://conference.libreoffice.org/registration. > > >> > > > >> >LibreOffice 3.6.2 is available for immediate download > from the > > following > > >> >link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions > for LibreOffice > > >> >are available from the following link: > > >> >http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. > > >> > > > >> >Change logs are available at > > >> > > > >> > > > > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.1.log > > >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.1) and > > >> > > > >> > > > > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.2.2.log > > >> >(fixed in 3.6.2.2). > > >> > > > >> >Short link to The Document Foundation blog: > http://wp.me/p1byPE-jV. > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >Italo Vignoli - Director > > >> >phone +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli > > >> >email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org > > >> >The Document Foundation > > >> >Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany > > >> >Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > > >> >Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > announce+h...@documentfoundation.org > > >> >Problems? > > >> > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >> >List archive: > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > >> Problems? > > >> > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >> Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > >> List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived > and cannot be > > >> deleted > > >> > > >> > > > > > >-- > > >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing > +h...@global.libreoffice.org > > >Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > >List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > > >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived > and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing > +h...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and > cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing > +h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and > cannot be deleted > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
