Tom, Base works fine for the many users who don't do anything more than dead simple stuff, so it's not a "horribly broken nightmare" for most people. Of course, for those affected, that's no doubt true.
But give it a rest; by continually carrying on about it on the marketing list you accomplish nothing other than annoying people, most of whom can't solve the problem anyway. Marc, I think your phrasing is good. The "also" definitely is appropriate and needed. --Jean On 10/05/2013, at 14:08, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi :) > Yes, i took "also" out because when used with the internal back-end Base is a > horribly broken nightmare. It's only when used with an external back-end, > such as an up-to-date untweaked version of HsqlDB (rather than the ancient > mangled one inside Base) or even better with MySql / MariaDB or PostgreSQL or > others that Base really becomes quite powerful. > > If i was trying to sell a car i wouldn't start the sales-pitch by pointing > out the flat wheels and rattling exhaust-pipe! > Regards from > Tom :) > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Marc Paré <m...@marcpare.com> >> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 21:49 >> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information >> >> >> Sorry for getting back to this so late. >> >> Thanks for the input Italo. I'll change the text. I also like Tom's >> version but I think without the "also" it sounds as if Base does not >> come as an installed database. If we were to put "also" back in, then >> the impression is that Base is an installed database but could also act >> as a frontend to the databases you mention. >> >> How about if we had: >> >> "Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. >> It is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice >> applications. Base can also be a good front-end to many >> enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL." >> >> Would this sound better? I think with the "also" included it clarifies >> what Base is all about, but, mentioning the MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL >> also shows that it is extensible. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Marc >> >> >> Le 06/05/13 12:00 PM, Tom Davies a écrit : >>> Hi :) >>> +1 >>> Perhaps remove "also" as Base is at it's strongest when used as a >>> front-end. It seems to be the default way of using Base and it's much >>> easier to get Base to co-operate with that than it is with Access. So, >>> perhaps >>> >>> >>> Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also >>> work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick >>> memo, but powerful enough to create complete books with contents, >>> diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while >>> Writer will make it look great. >>> >>> Base is a desktop database >>> designed to meet the needs of most users. It is a valuable and powerful >>> asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications. Base can be a good >>> front-end to many enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or >>> PostgreSQL. >>> >>> >>> Regards from >>> >>> Tom :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Italo Vignoli <italo.vign...@gmail.com> >>>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >>>> Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 16:30 >>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information >>>> >>>> >>>> Il 06/05/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: >>>> >>>>> Italo? >>>> >>>> I would change slightly the Writer text and tone down the Base one. >>>> >>>> My proposal: >>>> >>>> Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also work >>>> as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, >>>> but powerful enough to create complete books with contents, diagrams and >>>> indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while Writer will >>>> make it look great. >>>> >>>> Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. It is >>>> a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice >>>> applications. Base can also be used as a front-end to many >>>> enterprise-class databases. >>>> >>>> -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com >>>> mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it >>>> skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Marc Paré >> m...@marcpare.com >> http://www.parEntreprise.com >> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) >> parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> >> > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
