Hi :) So when people suffer data-loss due to using the internal back-end what is the Users List supposed to say? I guess we just blame it on marketing not knowing about a known issue. Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 5:21 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information > > >Tom, >Base works fine for the many users who don't do anything more than dead simple >stuff, so it's not a "horribly broken nightmare" for most people. Of course, >for those affected, that's no doubt true. > >But give it a rest; by continually carrying on about it on the marketing list >you accomplish nothing other than annoying people, most of whom can't solve >the problem anyway. > >Marc, I think your phrasing is good. The "also" definitely is appropriate and >needed. > >--Jean > >On 10/05/2013, at 14:08, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hi :) >> Yes, i took "also" out because when used with the internal back-end Base is >> a horribly broken nightmare. It's only when used with an external back-end, >> such as an up-to-date untweaked version of HsqlDB (rather than the ancient >> mangled one inside Base) or even better with MySql / MariaDB or PostgreSQL >> or others that Base really becomes quite powerful. >> >> If i was trying to sell a car i wouldn't start the sales-pitch by pointing >> out the flat wheels and rattling exhaust-pipe! >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Marc Paré <m...@marcpare.com> >>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 21:49 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information >>> >>> >>> Sorry for getting back to this so late. >>> >>> Thanks for the input Italo. I'll change the text. I also like Tom's >>> version but I think without the "also" it sounds as if Base does not >>> come as an installed database. If we were to put "also" back in, then >>> the impression is that Base is an installed database but could also act >>> as a frontend to the databases you mention. >>> >>> How about if we had: >>> >>> "Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. >>> It is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice >>> applications. Base can also be a good front-end to many >>> enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL." >>> >>> Would this sound better? I think with the "also" included it clarifies >>> what Base is all about, but, mentioning the MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL >>> also shows that it is extensible. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> >>> Le 06/05/13 12:00 PM, Tom Davies a écrit : >>>> Hi :) >>>> +1 >>>> Perhaps remove "also" as Base is at it's strongest when used as a >>>> front-end. It seems to be the default way of using Base and it's much >>>> easier to get Base to co-operate with that than it is with Access. So, >>>> perhaps >>>> >>>> >>>> Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also >>>> work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick >>>> memo, but powerful enough to create complete books with contents, >>>> diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while >>>> Writer will make it look great. >>>> >>>> Base is a desktop database >>>> designed to meet the needs of most users. It is a valuable and powerful >>>> asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications. Base can be a good >>>> front-end to many enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or >>>> PostgreSQL. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards from >>>> >>>> Tom :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Italo Vignoli <italo.vign...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 16:30 >>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General >>>>> Information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Il 06/05/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>>> Italo? >>>>> >>>>> I would change slightly the Writer text and tone down the Base one. >>>>> >>>>> My proposal: >>>>> >>>>> Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also >>>>> work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick >>>>> memo, but powerful enough to create complete books with contents, >>>>> diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while >>>>> Writer will make it look great. >>>>> >>>>> Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. It >>>>> is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice >>>>> applications. Base can also be used as a front-end to many >>>>> enterprise-class databases. >>>>> >>>>> -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com >>>>> mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it >>>>> skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marc Paré >>> m...@marcpare.com >>> http://www.parEntreprise.com >>> parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) >>> parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
