Oh, good ! If Waistline says it's incorrect, it most probably is correct !
Hammerman ^^^^^ Waistline2 at aol.com Reply MP: To state that: "Class in capitalism is a by-product of an unequal and exploitative economic system; the division of society into economic classes is something that socialists wish to abolish" is obviously wrong and immediately spotted by anyone except the novice to Marx method. Class within the bourgeois mode of production is the product of changes in the means of production that began development under the landed property relations or its political expression as feudalism. Classes at all times rise and fall and develop - emerge, on the basis of changes in the material power of production and how this material power is organized as a combination of human labor + tools, instruments, machines + energy source. That is, by the reorganization of the means of life. Almost always, the new class and new classes are tied to and work with the new means of production. Today's new class is shoved away from the means of production and this is very different in human society. Even if one disagrees with the previous sentence . . . no one within Marxism can disagree with the fact that classes are formed by the introduction of new productive equipment and rise and fall on the basis of changes in the means of production. Such is the ABC of Marxism. In other words capitalism does not create the modern working class or the industrial proletariat. The revolution in the means of production creates the industrial proletariat as it evolves from heavy manufacture within the framework of political feudalism. Marx and Engels chart the emergence of the modern proletariat of their time in the Communist Manifesto and in Engels "Anti Durhing" and Socialism: Utopia and Scientific. Class can only be abolished in connection with the evolution and destruction of the value relations. Melvin P _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [email protected] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
