MP: Here is what Marx states and it is fairly clear to me.  

"In the second type of colonies - plantations - where commercial  speculation 
figure from the start and production is intended for the world  market, the 
capitalist mode of production exists, although only in the formal  sense, since 
slavery of Negroes preclude free wage labor, which is the basis of  
capitalist production. But the business in which slaves are used is conducted 
by  
capitalists." 

The capitalist mode of production means the same as  the bourgeois mode of 
production or bourgeois property relations in the mode of  production of 
material life. 

One can of course explain the fundamental changes in the instruments of  
production rather that say wrong like a lawyer who has painted himself into a  
corner. Outline the change in the instruments of production after the overthrow 
 
of slavery. 
 
I can actually tell you almost the exact date which corresponds to Abraham  
Lincoln's initial date for the freeing of the slaves as a compromise to the  
bourgeois planters. 
 

However deal with Marx. 
 



Melvin P. 
 
 
 
MP: There was no fundamental change in the property relations or the   
instruments 
of production for that matter after the overthrow of slavery.  The  South 
remained more than less unchanged for at least another 50  years. Actually  
until  1939. The property relations of the Slave  holding south were not "slave 
 
property relations" but bourgeois  property relations carried out and 
cemented  using 
slaves as value  producers. 
 
^^^^^
CB; Wrong again. But that's what we count on you for - to almost  have it 
exactly wrong. Then all we have to do is flip you over on your feet and  we 
have 
the right answer.
 
 

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