It should be noted that before the actions of the Third Reich had discredited eugenics. It was something that was widely supported by intellectuals across the board from far right to far left, and all points in between. Bertrand Russell and G.B. Shaw were noted supporters of eugenics. It also had the support of many Marxists including for instance, Trotsky. Thus Trotsky in his article, "If America should go Communist" (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm) wrote the following concerning eugenics - note the distinction that he drew between the kind of eugenics that he supported and the kind that the Nazis supported:
"While the romantic numskulls of Nazi Germany are dreaming of restoring the old race of Europes Dark Forest to its original purity, or rather its original filth, you Americans, after taking a firm grip on your economic machinery and your culture, will apply genuine scientific methods to the problem of eugenics. Within a century, out of your melting pot of races there will come a new breed of men the first worthy of the name of Man." Jim F. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: waistli...@aol.com To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics? Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:43:18 EDT In a message dated 8/20/2009 6:36:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: >> Are you confused by the capitalization-to-start-sentences style rule I (unfortunately) adhered to? eugenics (nonrestrictive noun) is not Eugenics (restrictive noun). The former's meaning is determined by the meaning of the words comprising it: *eu* (good) plus *genics* (pertaining to heredity): its cognates are such words as "euphoria" and "generation." The latter, as indicated by the upper-case E, has a meaning restricted to the definition intended by the speaker, and there are indefinitely many such definitions.<< Reply Well . . . yes, I am utterly confused. By eugenics what is meant is something totally different from what one finds when they access the word on line. As I understand things in my confusion, what is meant is the striving for "good health" through the selection of "positive" - (life affirming hereditary traits that strengthen the human organism and increases longevity) more compatible "genetic material" in a mate. If this approximate your meaning then I suggest Arnold Ehret who describes how this process spontaneous process operates amongst human beings. Then he describes what in the environment blunts this spontaneous process and how to detoxify the human from the legacy of property and industrial society. ************* >> eugenics is universal among mammals and birds and most other terrestrial animals. It is the key factor making evolution a conscious, not a random process. Darwin called it "sexual selection. communism is the *beginning* of history because only in a communist society because only then will eugenics become a social goal, the evolution of our species the object of a *fully* conscious process.<< Reply I do agree that only in a communist society - after the human has been detoxified of the muck of property, and roughly seven generation have had an opportunity to close the metabolic breach, the pursuit of good health becomes a full societal goal. Until then finding the optimal mate is hit and miss, due to the misfiring and dysfunction of the senses. Human's possess the innate ability to smell ones optimal mate. However, property has distorted our nose and makes it a liar. Not for nothing have men wrote poetry to the beauty of hair, which under optimal conditions operate as extensions of our sexual organs. The smell of hair is a powerful thing to a healthy clear human body. Capital created fragrance to cover up and replace natural smell. To this day we sing of "the touch of your hand" because when one touches the optimal mate the electrical charge of the cells are excited. Much of these sense perceptions have been lost and/or blunted by property, capital and wrong consumption. Do read Ehret. There are some interesting proposition put forth by Zechariah Sitchin in his description of the genetic manipulation of man and the optimal hereditary factors need to produced the healthiest offspring's. I am interested in any material suggested on this topic, provided it steers clear of racial theory and natural selection based on ideological concepts of class and/or class as a social index. WL. ____________________________________________________________ Park City Express Direct Private Transportation to Park City Resort and Deer Valley http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=OdMA2VXf9oldyBiUNY3sOQAAJ1AP8ttsZd_TbiVxkZxsC3mBAAUAAAAAAAAAAHsUbj47uU1E6-ilZBkve7YNejP3AAAAAA== _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
