On 9/30/09, waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com> wrote: > >>> So, this layer of workers is asking a sophisticated question, a > question about "the system", to the communists and socialists "if you > guys are so smart what kind of system do you propose and how will it > operate generally operate ?", but they do not have a clue as to what > the word "communist "means ? That doesn't ring true. First of all , > you have been talking to them for a while, so they already have heard > of the term communist.<< > > > Comment > > You miss the point. The point is “what is the solution.” I will try and > write clearer. Other layers of the workers ask the same question. Take > health care. “How will universal health care be paid for.” Another layer of > the workers do not care how something is paid for and simply want access to > socially necessary means of life. > > *******
There is more than one point. There are roughly two big aspects. Is the system broken or "evil" in Moore's terminology ? They have to be convinced that that is true before they look to the second aspect, what is the solution. Moore is making a big step in massively broadcasting the claim that the first aspect is true > > >>> When I work with your comrades fighting for water as a human right for > low-income > Detroiters or stopping the evictions of a bunch of people in an apartment > building in Highland Park, with me representing the tenants, or Welfare > Rights in general they deal with all kinds of literary petty bourgeois > intellectuals. <<< > > Comment > > I speak for myself and myself only. I meet all kinds of people as a way of > life. My “baby” - choice of work, is literature production with others. > Here is an example. Both of us were involved in the last city election. The > literature I passed out for that election was non-communist, because the > candidate I was supporting is not a communist. However, after the election > and during it I was involved in other activity where I could utilize a > revolutionary press and Marxists literature. > ********** I was responding to your reference to your comrades. > > >>> Actually, if you look I didn't say mass _media_. I said just mass work. > The monopoly media is very corrupt on these issues. That's part of why > Moore's breakthrough in it , saying we need to replace capitalism with > democracy, is so extraordinary. <<< > > Comment > > Without question Moore’s movie as mass media is extraordinary. Because we > were speaking of a movie opening nationwide I took the conversation to be > about mass media. I do not do work in the mass media. How one identify > themselves and their terminology is personal with political connotations. If > you > choose to speak in terms of other countries that is fine. All of us are not > the same and going to approach things different. My goal is to seek out > those individuals interested in revolutionary thought. When I was a young man > the writings of Engel’s changed my life. I have a feeling Engel’s will > impact this generation of young people the same way. Will be back in Detroit > to stay in two weeks. > > WL. I am not adverse to seeking out individuals interested in revolutionary thought at all. They are not large in number these days, so there is plenty of time to do both that and reaching out to larger numbers at the level of Moore's. I was being a bit, well, semi-comic like Moore when I said throw over entirely to Moore-ism and that he is our Lenin (smile) Give me a call when you are here. > > > > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
