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Thank you Jim. Helps explain encounters with SL in the late 60s onward, then ET/BT/IBT in the 80s onward in occasional brief residence, frequent sojourns and visits to the CA bay area. Sad, sort-of-embarassing commentary on not-so-unusual experiences on the left; appreciate the Cannon quote at the end. Revealing about the nature of much of the U.S.(English-speaking?) left of the latter 70s onward, about SL and also about the ET (to become IBT). I think that this excerpt from the wikipedia entry on the Spartacist League explains the main reason for the widespread derision of SL among activists/the left: "In the United States, the group is small, but very vocal, and its activities within leftist-activist coalitions and wide-scale social justice protest movements usually focus on trying to portray themselves as the most authentically communist group present at that activity. In response, most comparable radical left groupings specifically deride the "Sparts", by name, as being a nuisance..." as i recall this thread started with a question about 'why the widepread derision of the SL'? i've used up more than my available time in reading the long article, i don't have time to search online or in my memory (i'm sure i've forgotten way more than i 'know') - what is Healy's lie that is referred to as the point of rupture w/in RT of early 60s that led to differentiation between SL and WL in the U.S.? On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, James Creegan via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > > The appended pamphlet, /The Road to Jimstown /(c. 1985), is the most > memorable piece of literiture produced by the International Bolshevik > Tendency, a split off from the Spartacist League. (I belonged to the IBT for > ten years.) Its subject is the degeneration of the Spartacist internal > regime, as opposed to its politics. More than simply an indictment of the > cult of Spartacist founder/leader James Robertson, it's the best expose I've > ever read of the methods of internal control employed not only by leftwing > cults, but by cults in general. It makes a good read, even for dedicated > non-sectarians > > http://www.bolshevik.org/ETB/Rtj.html > > Jim Creegan > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/daynegoodwin%40gmail.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com