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The Social-Democrats ideal should not be the trade union secretary, but the tribune of the people who is able to react to every manifestation of tyranny and oppression no matter where it appears no matter what stratum or class of the people it affects; who is able to generalize all these manifestations and produce a single picture of police violence and capitalist exploitation; who is able to take advantage of every event, however small, in order to set forth before all his socialist convictions and his democratic demands, in order to clarify for all and everyone the world-historic significance of the struggle for the emancipation of the proletariat.” -- V. I. Lenin; What Is To Be Done It would be a fundamental mistake to suppose that the struggle for democracy can divert the proletariat from the socialist revolution, or obscure, or overshadow it, etc. On the contrary, just as socialism cannot be victorious unless it introduces complete democracy, so the proletariat will be unable to prepare for victory over the bourgeoisie unless it wages a many-sided, consistent, and revolutionary struggle for democracy.” -- V. I. Lenin, Collected Works, 4th English Edition; Vol. 22 T -----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Pollack via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> >Sent: Oct 21, 2016 8:50 AM >To: Thomas F Barton <thomasfbar...@earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Socialist Action on Libya and Syria > >******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >#1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >#2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >#3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >***************************************************************** > >Sigh... I feel like I'm playing whack-a-mole. >Here we are again with Joe Green >misrepresenting/misunderstanding/maliciously lying about/displaying his >ignorance of (you all tell me which one) permanent revolution. >The point of permanent revolution is to grasp the INTERTWINING of the >democratic and socialist revolutions, which MEANS at EVERY STAGE supporting >EVERY democratic demand, and NEVER abstaining from a democratic struggle no >matter how long it takes to reveal its dialectical connection to the class >struggle. >And in practice EVERY MENA Trotskyist group in the revolutionary socialist >tradition has done exactly that. ALL the groups which have issued joint >statements, contributed to al-Manshour and Permanent Revolution journal >etc., have theorized and acted in a way that bears NO relationship to >Green's malicious caricature. > >Keep on trying to derail the class struggle, Joe, it won't work. >_________________________________________________________ >Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >Set your options at: >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/thomasfbarton%40earthlink.net _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
