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I grew up in the 1990s and so the span of Marvel Comics that were part of my childhood, as well as the several cartoons, were pretty different than what we have been getting since the first IRON MAN from Marvel Studios. Marvel was always extremely high on both the melodrama and the social justice parables, sometimes to the extent of being unbearable. My frame of reference for the canon therefore is including that stuff. Indeed since Marvel Studios emerged, it has been pretty obvious that Marvel and DC have effectively switched roles, now it is DC-based films like the Batman pictures and Superman with all the pathos while Marvel is pretty bubblegum in comparison. Speaking specifically about the Panther titles, Ta-Nehisi Coates has been writing it for the past several years and the result have been interesting. -- Best regards, Andrew Stewart Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 06:41:13 -0800 From: DW <dwalters...@gmail.com> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Black Panther: Afrofuturism Gets a Superb Film, Marvel Grows Up and I Don?t Know How to Review It Message-ID: <CAA0cW=-xctn4rz7wmmm8wxsq_kab9rja3kov_uhhzcxss_r...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Andrew, one of the better reviews. I *still* think you, like many of us political types, are taking the film way too seriously. I can't disagree with what you say but you do fail in one area: trying to rely what the *comic* book was all about and how this film reflects, or not, the original idea of The Black Panther. I always judge a work of art (even a cartoon) based on the canon of that film. You to touch on it be far too briefly. The Black Panther fits into the Marvel Universe/Marvel Cinematic Universe franchise (Thor, Avengers, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc. etc. etc.). These comic books were all conceived as or were eventually integrated into this universe(s) and in fact our Black Panther character and his general, played by the wildly popular (because of her starring role in The Walking Dead as Michonne, the sword wielding and general bad-ass Zombie killer) Danai Gurira are in the upcoming Avengers film "Avengers: Infinity". Both characters are part of the ensemble of super-heroes out to save the planet. The 'social significance' of this I have to assume is irrelevant beyond the rather flaccid attempt at liberal globalization and "anti-racism" exhibited in The Black Panther. Lastly, I enjoyed the attempt to humanize the characters beyond their 2 dimensional presence with cute banter between them. This is not unique to this Marvel film as they have been doing this in the last few years by giving the characters a little levity in their lines. Of course the amazingly wonderful Guardian of the Galaxy serious is *entirely* based on such banter and it works well (not to mention that the two Guardian films have simply the best sound track of any film ever made. EVER. :) David Walters _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com