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John R., truly, I feel sad you that you can counter-culturally isolate yourself from what the masses of people see at the movies. "Propaganda"? Prove it. Tell the members of the Writers Guild they as saps for capitalism. Tell them that they are not artists but just US gov't social sycophants. What a fucked up POV. EVERYTHING under capitalism bears the stamp of class society. There are no exceptions. And so what? I went to see The Black Panther fully aware that this wasn't an artistic exercise with great social implications. I went to be entertained. We can argue about the merit of what is entertaining but I, nor my son, came out of this film with a renewed or new sense of social patriotism and God bless American capitalism. Not even a *little*. I doubt anyone was. We were all entertained, mission accomplished. Rap music *exists* because of capitalism, John. It was dialectically created, as were Blues and Jazz as a reaction to oppression...or, more for rap, alienation. From the *beginning* it contained major elements of mysogony and anti-gay bigotry. This was true from the first tunes coming out of the Bronx neighborhood it originated it. As such, Rap contains and continues to contain all forms of contradictions. Such is culture under capitalism. Looking for pure anti-capitalist culture misses the entire point of literary and artistic criticism. I stand by what I said and reject all PC and Socialist Realist horse shit. David _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com