I would be wary of such a "solution" though Louis.  France in 1940 is a good
example of how fast a terribly oppressive people can transformed into an
oppressed group in a flash.  Demographically it's also a different game than
in Algeria and South Africa and I think it does matter--- in terms of how
hard it will be to eradicate Zionism as opposed to those other apartheid
states-- that Israel was created on the basis of “exclusion colonization”,
relying mostly on Jewish labor, as opposed to regular “exploitation
colonization".

One state-solution theorists admit that their triumph would lead to a mass
exodus of a large percentage of the current population of Israel.  This has
serious economic, as well as moral implications. I'm tempted to agree, but I
see it as sort of a cop out.  On paper it's obviously the ideal solution----
Zionism was a historical crime littered with an inherent racist ethos.  But
is there any doubt that this solution cannot be solved without the worldwide
return of emancipatory politics as opposed to the current paradigm?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Louis Proyect <l...@panix.com> wrote:

> Marv Gandall wrote:
> > It's not possible to conceive of a socialist revolution in
> Palestine/Israel
> > which would not involve the participation of the Jewish masses, and if
> such
> > were to come to pass, the question of a "Jewish state", especially in
> terms
> > of what it has come to represent, would be moot. It's very unlikely that
> > Hebrew-speaking revolutionaries, having shed their blood with
> > Arabic-speaking Palestinians against the Zionists and the Zionist idea,
> > would be asking, if anything, for more than the new state's support for
> the
> > preservation of their language and culture.
>
> But the conflict is not about language and culture. It is about power,
> land, wealth, etc.
>
> And, furthermore, what is so amazing about the Zionist project is its
> inability to think outside the box. South Africa abandoned apartheid but
> did nothing to attack the power, land, and wealth of the white minority.
> A more clever Zionist leadership would abandon the racial basis of the
> state and put the ineffable Abbas in charge of the government. Nothing
> would change, however.
>
> But since the presence of religious zealots in the veins of Israeli
> society prevents this, the inevitable outcome will be like Algeria no
> matter how long it takes. The demographics favor this.
>
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