It is really telling to compare the PRC's capitalist development with that
of the U.S. from the latter 19th century - early 20th century, a meme often
found in the bourgeois press.

On the basis of a relativity high wage structure - an early spur to
mechanization - U.S manufacturing was primarily oriented towards development
of the internal market: agriculture and mineral extraction via the expansion
of the railroads and early mechanization of agriculture, the products of
these latter then exported on the world market.  It was only later in this
period that manufactured goods themselves became significant export items.
(One of my concrete tasks is to find exact numbers to confirm this).  The
major point is that this was overwhelmingly an independent development.
There was of course always foreign investment, but this was a secondary and
non-determinant component.  And when the United States accumulated monetary
reserves on these exports, these were in a gold standard currency, not
today's Chinese fiat pile.

The PRC path could not be more different.  It is also telling that leftist
or nationalist Chinese observers tend to concur with the dependent
development view of China:  The neo-Maoist Minqi Li (The Rise of China and
the Demise of the Capitalist World Economy - because neither China nor
anywhere else will rise as a successor hegemonic center, and I share his
long run optimism), Henry Liu (yeah, I know, I know) or the guy I posted
from NLR,  Ho-fung Hung (China: Americas' Head Servant?).

-Matt

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Yes, I agree-- it's all historical, but the reference Zizek makes is
specifically to China.  I agree also that China is not a successor state to
the US in the configuration of advanced capitalism.

It, China's "new model capitalism,"  is based on the rather old cheap labor
model, more representative of capitalism in the 19th century, before the
massive application of machine power to production in the 2nd half of that
century.   And agriculture is conducted at a level of productivity far below
that of capitalism.

Doesn't mean every bourgeois doesn't drool over the prospects of having a
police state, but it does mean, IMO, China is facing tremendous social
upheaval and class struggle.
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