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It doesn't matter. You have to set the context for the definition and 
then use it. Yards of denim weaved per worker, or, yards of demin per 
weaved per automatic weaving machine is valid if on is consistent. In 
agriculture, we use tons of wheat per acre and labor hardly enters into 
it. The Russians discussed productivity of *material* per worker in many 
discussions after the Revolution.

I agree with Shane (if I understand him), however, that one talks in 
*material products produced on average per unit of labor*. The 
capitalists attach a monetary value to this, but only for the bottom 
line. I've seen literally dozens of reports in the energy industry that 
*never* talk a monetary value (because it's impossible as prices 
fluxuate). David S. writes:

"Productivity is anything but a bogus measure from Marx's point of view. His
analysis of capitalism focuses precisely upon the bourgeoisie's need to
boost the productivity of labor by expelling wage-labor from production and
substituting objectified, accumulated labor-- i.e machinery, technology-- in
its stead. Marx identifies this as the extraction of relative surplus value
and it form the basis for the valorisation process of industrial 
capitalism."

Marx is only describing the key aspect of the dynamic of capitalist 
exploitation, is he not? Throughout his writings he talks about that 
physical economy of accumulated machinery and technology as also being 
"progressive" *precisely* because it can, under socialism, increase 
humanity's wealth. He is talking productivity. When Trotsky and other 
Bolsheviks talked about the utter poverty of the Russian workers state 
you think he was talking about surplus value or monetary value *at all*???

I think some are overly formal on definitions. Productivity is a very 
useful and correct term to describe the obvious vernacular use of this 
expression to see how much stuff workers, groups of workers, the working 
class can produce in a given period of time. The USSR in large part was 
*inefficient* (perhaps another revisionist term, folks?) in no small 
part because they never knew the true *cost* of any commodity being 
produced, how much labor power was used, etc: only gross output. Is this 
"Marxist"?

DW

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