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Mark Lause wrote: The problem is that Marxists see "the State" as a mechanism for one class to dominate the society. So, too, when a revolution happens, it involves the replacement of one state power with another. There are basic problems in seeing a revolution or a counterrevolution that does not blow away the old state and bring in a new one. ML ... >From Badiou's Logics of Worlds: Mao's reactions to the Manual of Political Economy published by the Soviets under Khrushchev, at the height of the post-Stalinist 'thaw'. The manual recalls that under communism, taking into account the existence of hostile exterior powers, the state endures. But it adds that 'the nature and forms of the state will be determined by the particular features of the communist system', which comes down to assigning the form of the state to something other than itself. Against this, as a good revolutionary formalist, Mao thunders: By nature, the state is a machine whose purpose is to oppress hostile forces. Even if internal forces that need to be oppressed no longer exist, the oppressive nature of the state will not have changed with respect to hostile external forces. When one speaks of the form of the state, this means nothing other than an army, prisons, arrests, executions, etc. As long as imperialism exists, in what sense could the form of the state differ with the advent of communism? ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com