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Right. But I think it's relevant for us, regardless of our age, to ask: Can you have a change in class rule without the destruction of the state? Because that didn't happen in China...which leaves us to wonder whether it has changed its nature of late or whether those of us who saw it as ultimately a workers state before were wrong.... ML ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com