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There must be no separation between workers' union and political party. That was what caused the failure of the 2nd International and 3rd International. And look where that led them. Russia ? China ? Policy (internal and international) should be decided by workers themselves. The idea that union and party are two separate entities, the former being subordinate to the later, is a typically "ruling elite" idea. Let "great thinkers" come up with a Socialist utopia, while workers are confined to listening respectfully. Workers are incapable, or so Leninist thinking goes, of understanding the ins and outs of national policy. They need a Party of intellectuals to guide them. I am not against a party (a bunch of people) trying to convince people, but WITHIN A TRADE UNION. And openly. Be they Trotskyist or Maoist, as long as they hate bosses. The working class's aim is emancipation. I know that many people will denigrate the importance of strikes and organizing unions of the working class, and prefer building a party. GOod luck to them ! ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com