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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Richard Seymour
<leninstombb...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>> So again, how is that different from the Labour Party?
>
> I'm sorry, but that's not the same.  A trade union in Britain could
> easily donate money to the Liberals, but that wouldn't be in any way
> commensurate with the structured links between Labour and the organised
> working class.  Does Democratic Party depend on the unions?  No, about
> 14% of its funding comes from the unions.  Does it depend on working
> class support?  No, largely not, since most of the working class does
> not vote; of those who do vote for either party, the overwhelming
> majority have always self-identified as middle class.  Does the
> Democratic Party allow unions to have a block vote at its national
> conventions? No. Does the Democratic National Committee have
> union-sponsored members?  No.  Are there are any Democratic
> congressional repesentatives or senators who are specifically
> union-sponsored?  No.  Would the unions matter in the least when it came
> to selecting Democratic leadership candidates?  No, and certainly
> nowhere near as much as capital, especially finance capital.  At most,
> the unions are a 'special interest', a lobby group that the Democrats
> wheel-and-deal with, but have no basis in and no organic structured
> connections to.
>
> Isn't this clear enough?


Not really. There are structural differences, sure, but the function
and the end result is the same--namely, to neuter the working class.
I'm by no means an expert on Britlander electoral politics, but seems
to me you're fetishizing these structural linkages.

BTW, I can call myself a Martian, just like a worker can call himself
middle class, but saying so doesn't make it so.

Greg

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