WL:
"Without increasingly less labor costs to the capitalists, robots on the
assembly line work more efficiently than workers, and computer-operated tool
and die makers are faster and more accurate than skilled mechanists. Labor
is being eliminated from production, and thus the source of value and
surplus value is being eliminated. "
COMMENT:
Robots are the accumulated intellectual and physical labor of all that process
incorporated in its production. Who can put a price on brain labor, i.e.
intelligence, which keeps augmenting in value as new techniques are thought
out in the production process? This intellectual as well as dead labor value
is transfered to the product... the rate of profit is diminished; profit is
nevertheless realized.
WL:
"These revolutionary new means of production not only does not grow the
working class but cause an irreparable breach in the process of buying and
selling that is essential to bourgeois commodity production - capitalism."
COMMENT:
Not really. The working class continues to be replenished, here in the USA
and, especially, around the world, despite electronics being used there too.
Capitalism develops unevenly. The New Working Class must be better prepared
to handle the new technology. They are a better skilled and knowledgeable lot
and are "growing" in that way in India, China, and wherever new technology
rears. Of course, they will not be paid the $25.00/ hour + as before... but
they shall be better exploited by the capitalists though. That was the point
of robotics all along..... as well as, of course, Imperialist competition.
The working class is becoming more intelligent and more exploited, while our
other contingents are being impoverished and dispossessed.
WL:
"As electronics eliminates human labor, it destroys the source of all value,
and thus ends a system of production and distribution based on the
exploitation of human labor power. Zero rate of profit and zero value of human
labor power is the trajectory marking the end of the capitalist system of
production and distribution, and thus the end of the "value producing system"
as the means for determining what is produced and consumed."
COMMENT:
Capitalism makes up, to a fair degree, for robotics and the "electronics
revolution" by maximizing the quantity of labor used of a lower organic
composition. And so the labor market is flooded by immigrant labor. Here, an
increase, in numbers, of a grossly exploited laborer can consume that which
is wanting by an unemployed labor force. Or, four immigrant laborers can
consume what one higher paid worker used to. The crisis of overproduction is
not resolved though, but the crisis of a higher exploited laborer is. AGain,
VALUE is still being passed by robotics, brain labor is being employed. It is
something quite relatively new, but foreseen by Karl Marx.
f580
--- On Wed, 12/29/10, waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com> wrote:
From: waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [MLL] CONCERNS OF A CAPITALIST;
To: marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 1:55 PM
In a message dated 12/28/2010 5:14:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
frankied...@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.communistrobot.com/index.php?page=&nav=1&article=1
COMMUNIST ROBOT
"....The entire world, all of humanity, can be elevated to live a life of
luxury with robots doing all the industrial labor. With menial labor taken
care of, education and creative endeavors would become paramount, freeing
humanity to develop its greatest faculty: the human mind. This social reform
into a utopian state is only possible with the proper implementation of
robots. It should be the goal of every able minded individual to curve the
world towards this robot revolution. Even before robotic technology reaches
economic viability social reform is needed to insure that people know the
benefits of robotic industrialization. This is a call for humanity to advance,
just as we've advanced from caves to homes, as we've risen out of
feudalism and forged Democracy, as we've gone from manpower to horse power to
machine power. It is time for a new age, the culmination of everything learned
and done before it, and the end of human labor. Oppression, inequity, war,
poverty, these can be things of the past with the proper implementation of
robotic industrialization. The full realization of humanity is upon us, it
is time to advance! "
Comment
Interesting site.
Since mass production of "Entering An Epoch of Social Revolution" in
1991/93, the issue of the revolution in the means of production ("communist
robots") has been presented as the social consequence of a qualitatively new
technology regime applied to all areas of social production.
Capital's drive for maximum profits has led to the introduction of a
revolutionary new means of production, thus opening up an era of social
revolution. Previous technological advances were labor-saving. From
capitalism's
earliest beginnings in the textile factories of England to its domination of
the global society, each advance in the industrial revolution uprooted the
old mode of production and grew the industrial working class world wide as
serfs were converted into modern proletarians.
Although the path of the industrial revolution was marked by horrible
cyclical economic crisis and imperial wars of plunder, earth completed its
historic transition from agrarian based society to machine based society and a
working class - industrial proletariat, arose conforming to the new
technology regime. Hundreds of million were brought into the industrial
production
of commodities.
This is not the case today with the new revolution in the means of
production. Electronic technology in production replaces labor and detaches
ever
increasing layers of the old industrial working class as activity
producer/consumers in the new economy. Computerized production and advanced
robotics
lowers labor costs by replacing human labor with robots and with computer
technology that controls and operates machinery. During the curve of the
industrial revolution labor was augmented by machinery and the automaton
(automatic machine or automation) and the agricultural worker was converted
into
an industrial worker.
Without increasingly less labor costs to the capitalists, robots on the
assembly line work more efficiently than workers, and computer-operated tool
and die makers are faster and more accurate than skilled mechanists. Labor
is being eliminated from production, and thus the source of value and
surplus value is being eliminated.
We are experiencing the first world wide crisis of capital, universally
recognized as a "jobless recovery."
These revolutionary new means of production not only does not grow the
working class but cause an irreparable breach in the process of buying and
selling that is essential to bourgeois commodity production - capitalism.
Robots and computer-operated machinery aren't paid wages and don't buy
anything; they produce but they don't consume. And, workers replaced by these
means of production don't have paychecks. The nexus of the producer/consumer
as
wage earner is being burst asunder. When workers are unable to buy, the
capitalist is unable to realize a profit. The overall impact of the new
technology is to drive the rate of surplus value down to zero.
As electronics eliminates human labor, it destroys the source of all value,
and thus ends a system of production and distribution based on the
exploitation of human labor power. Zero rate of profit and zero value of human
labor power is the trajectory marking the end of the capitalist system of
production and distribution, and thus the end of the "value producing system"
as the means for determining what is produced and consumed.
Capitalism - bourgeois commodity production has come to its historic end.
Something new is struggling to be born. Only people can determine whether
that abundance made possible by a new technology will be owned by a handful
of capitalists, or by, and for, the good of the community as a whole.
Waistline
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