WL: "You earnestly believe me to side with the political fascist? Is this not way over the top? "
COMMENT: I don't know, I hope not. But how can anybody be so certain as to say: "The workers who keep their jobs can only protect that toehold against disaster by inevitably moving closer to the ruling class, while a larger section will be cast adrift"? MOVING CLOSER TO THE RULING CLASS, WHILE....... The phrase says "workers who KEEP THEIR JOBS" as opposed to those "CAST ADRIFT". That's a political schism as well as economic one. Then you say that the workers in the Detroit auto plants were a racist lot. I say that you are most certainly correct that RACE was indeed an issue in Detroit in the early 1900's and mid 1940's, and that the two races wanted to kill each other. In NYC races are still killing each other, and whites are not even involved, unless they be the Police. In fact some races kill their own regularly [gang wars and the like]. You see, the class struggle is about killing. But you forgot to mention, or perhaps you're not familiar with, the Detroit 1919 strikes, that it was disrupted, partly, by "Negro" strikebreakers, that even Widick, the author of the book DETROIT: CITY OF RACE AND CLASS VIOLENCE comments: "and this had not been forgotten [by the white workers]; it had been one cause of the disastrous race riots in the post - World War I period." p.73. The white workers in Detroit battled the capitalist quite heroically during this period mentioned above, and even fought for and won the CIO. Black workers eventually joined the ranks, after much struggle, that is. Struggle is primary in contradictions. If one race of workers, want to kill another race of workers, which side are you on? Understanding that both races will fight behemouthly, if you will, against capital. You'd probably choose your own race. That's why the color factor can be such a problem. The KKK leading the 200,000 or more white workers, migrating from Virginia to Detroit, were defeated by class conscious white workers themselves, and we all understand that's the way it must be, and that workers must place race second to class, although race issues still remain and sometimes do play a dominant role. Now, to pin one race of workers against another race is bad, but to pin a working section of the class against a non working one, is worst. And that's what I believe is the problem here, that can serve as a breeding ground for fascism. The LRNA seems to have gotten that perception right. f580 --- On Fri, 12/31/10, waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com> wrote: From: waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MLL] Know Your Enemy, Know Yourself To: marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 4:07 PM In a message dated 12/31/2010 12:22:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _frankied...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:frankied...@yahoo.com) writes: That's right mister..... "communists" like you. No slip of the tongue. There will be, in this revolution too, "workers" who will side with fascism, just the same, and you fit the picture. No need to be stuck in the past. The "future is up to you". The communist international blamed the social democrats for their role within the working class during the onslaught of fascism. Wow, a million times to you, ostracizer of the revolutionary working class. f580 Reply You earnestly believe me to side with the political fascist? Is this not way over the top? Waistline _______________________________________________ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list _______________________________________________ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list
