Comrades, I most certainly am no musician and ought defer to Comrade Professional Musician. But his key statement was that "Chamber orchestras are small groups where the members can see each other." True. If they have eyes in the backs of their heads. (See photo, caption and Mission Statements of the Kaleidoscope Chamber Orchestra just below.) So then it is a question of quantity and not of quality? Not a matter of overarching idea but merely a matter of a greater or lesser number? Fine and well. If not needed by 4 or 5. If not needed by the twenty or so (in the photo below) then at what number? 50? Does that mean that one of 49 does not need but one with 50 does? Or is it a matter of the uber-consciousness of comrades thinking, acting, performing, if you will, in concert. (NPI)
The point was that the 'conductor' of combined production is no longer necessitated because of the complexity and size of the productive unit. What is the role that the capitalist performs? Does he produce surplus-value of does he merely 'conduct' the production of surplus-value. This is not a productive function. And it is a non-productive function that is no longer necessitated. The planning of production today can be done by technology. On this see W Paul Cockshott’s " Calculation in-Natura, from Neurath to Kantorovich ( https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0e3a/443d6fb314eb8b160576faa9928aa151d6fb.pdf ) ”, which to go one step further is not only not ‘conducted’ but, even further, is not planned with the use of a pricing vector: neither money nor labor, not even abstract human labor, if you will. And to go that brilliant piece of work even one more step forward, with the direction of the smaller units of the larger combination being done by the members of those smaller units, the workers themselves, with no overarching 'conductor'. No king. No Pope. No conductor. No capitalist. Marx, and following him, De Leon, were most certainly correct...in their time. Those statements by them no longer hold. That is the point. Not the divination of this or that ‘magic’ number. https://musicsprings.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/kaleidoscope-is-an-orchestra-with-an-unconventional-approach-founded-by-alum-benjamin-mitchell-where_s-the-conductor-photo-kathryn-nockels.jpg About the Kaleidoscope Chamber Orchestra ( http://www.kco.la/about/ ) *Vision* We envision a world where our commitment to a collaborative artistic process results in profound orchestral performances that inspire people to pursue cooperation and artistry in their own creative, professional and personal lives. Mission Kaleidoscope is a conductorless chamber orchestra dedicated to enriching lives through exhilarating concert experiences, artistic excellence, musician leadership, and connecting with the diverse communities of Los Angeles. Core values • We believe that our collective of musicians has ideas that are worthy of respect and consideration; that each member has a voice worth hearing; that every person, given the chance and tools, can help to create great art. • We believe that pursuing a democratic process within the orchestra will improve the quality of the performance, fulfill the collective vision of the ensemble, and create a unique experience not found in traditional orchestras. • We believe in developing an infrastructure that supports, empowers, and values its musicians. • We believe in bringing our performances and artistic process to audiences who have little or no exposure to symphonic music with the belief that the experience will enrich the lives of both the audience and the performers. https://musicsprings.wordpress.com/2018/05/05/from-kaleidoscope-chamber-orchestra-dont-miss-our-concerts-next-week-in-downtown-la-and-santa-monica/ ( https://musicsprings.wordpress.com/2018/05/05/from-kaleidoscope-chamber-orchestra-dont-miss-our-concerts-next-week-in-downtown-la-and-santa-monica/ ) It could not be said better. This is communism clothed is beautifully musical drag. JAI -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3525): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/3525 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/78255424/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
