While focusing on Syria, I meant it as an example of the overall subject - the Arab Spring. Because, let us note, it wasn't only in Syria that the revolt was in effect defeated. I accept Michael Karadjis's point that they were simply militarily overwhelmed in Syria, but that is exactly part of the point. Although the revolt in one country inspired a similar revolt elsewhere, there was no coordination between the different uprisings. And that leads to the point I raised in my original comments: The need to make an appeal to the working class elsewhere, including Turkey. Would such an appeal have succeeded? It's impossible to know. It's also impossible to know whether an attempt on the part of some to coordinate the movement throughout the region could have succeeded. But are those who oppose what I wrote saying that it shouldn't have been tried?
One other thing to note: To succeed in appealing to the Turkish working class (yes, I do still hold to that old fashioned idea that the working class is the revolutionary force in society), to succeed in making that link, a class appeal would have been necessary. But how can a movement make a class appeal to Turkish workers if it isn't clearly based on a class appeal at home? None of this is a simple matter of one or two people making a general proposal and magically all things will be resolved. Exactly how such politics can be put into practice is the question of the hour and cannot be resolved from afar. Some will be implying - if not openly saying - that these are just the rantings of an arrogant outsider. What right does he have to talk? That is outside the traditions of Marxism. If we can critique the politics of struggles in more distant history, why can't we do so regarding more recent ones? John Reimann -- *“Science and socialism go hand-in-hand.” *Felicity Dowling Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3972): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/3972 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/78477155/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
