1. If Trump converted the Republican party to a semi-fascist party by himself why can't Trotskyists convert the Democratic party to a socialist party? Trojan horse strategy.
2. The Democratic party may be a capitalist party, but this can end although that might require a herculean effort and a political paradigm shift. 3.I have no .nz adress, I am dutch (.nl) and associated with D66 but no member. I do not endorse their politics. 4. This is not new indeed, but what else can we do to counter the surge of the right-wing? OK, the dilemma is: build a party from a split, or enter an existing party to reach the masses, or avoid party politics altogether and just go with the flow... Vote! R.O. On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 03:12 PM, Mark Lause wrote: > > The French turn was used to describe entry into the Socialist Party and > has to do with the relationship of a much smaller Trotskyist group to a > mass working class party. It took place in the response to indications > that the social democrats and Communists in France had, by 1934, drawn the > right conclusions from the suicidal course of the German Left. The > American adoption of this strategy came in 1936, and resulted in drawing > together a radical current within the Socialist Party around the > _Socialist Appeal_. Setting aside whether or not this was a good idea, > the results were certainly mixed and the successes did not match the > expectations. > > Other than having a recognizable advertising label, going into the > Democratic party would be neither a French turn, nor possible, nor produce > anything new. > > 1. Democratic party is a capitalist party. This isn't a pejorative > statement but a recognition of proprietorship, an acknowledgement of the > law of gravity. American politics is structured around raising money, and > all the major officeholders (and aspirants to major office) owe their > position to donors resenting large corporations or lobbyists on their > behalf. American politics has shifted far to the right since the 1970s > and 1980s when both parties embraced the wholesale deregulation of > business (including the media) in the 1980s, That's how, in the last > election, the Democrats nominated the most overtly Nixonized candidate it > could find--the only person farther right than Biden was quite literally a > Republican billionaire. > > 2. Panic-mongering aside, the conditions we face today bear no resemblance > to France in the 1930s. Nazis have not just come to power in Canada. If > the immediate prospects of fascism in the U.S. have risen slightly higher > than nil, it is owed to the utterly ineffective Democratic responses to > the willingness of a Trumpified Republican sense that they can use > psychotically right-wing groups to their advantage. > > 3. Given your New Zealand email address, you get the benefit of the doubt > on some of this, but you should know that you cannot "enter" the > Demcocratic party, because it is not a membership organization. The only > role a citizen can play in the process of "self-government" in America is > to vote their consumer preference in the periodic official surveys of over > which of the rival parties has the best sales pitch. > > > In that sense, a secret poll about whether or not socialists should vote > Democratic suits the system nicely. > > 4. This proposes nothing new. A sizeable section of the working > class--particularly those organized into unions--has been looking for > change to the Democratic party since FDR and longer. The result of this > over the nearly last half century has essentially ratified the strategy of > the Democratic leadership to move ever-rightward. > > Cheers, > Mark L. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6849): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/6849 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/80967958/21656 Mute #poll-notice:https://groups.io/g/marxmail/mutehashtag/poll-notice -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
