> On May 15, 2024, at 7:59 AM, Michael Meeropol via groups.io
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> According to some versions of SSA theory, the period beginning with the New
> Deal (especially finalized after WW II) involved a ::"Capital-Labor Accord"
> whereupon the biggest capitalists acquiesced in union representation and
> rising real wages IN RETURN For unions recognizing "management prerogatives"
> which basically meant Management controlled the pace and intensity of work
> and "paid for it" with higher wages --- THen there was a "capital-citizen
> accord" which created the welfare-warfare state (with the expansion of social
> security and the culmination of the expansion of the social safety net with
> Medicare and Medicaid ----
>
> THis "worked" --- income inequality lessened --- a very significant
> percentage of the population moved out of poverty.
>
> NOW --- could something similar happen with "GREEN" technology --- I think it
> could but of course the current beneficiaries of the fossil-fuel based
> economy have a lot of power to thwart those changes ---
I don't think so to the extent that a successful SSA is based on growth, which
I've found in some SSA literature such as
https://peri.umass.edu/images/publication/Stagnation-and-SSAs-Manuscript-Version-19-11.pdf.
I am not sure how that particular author thought of Long Waves, but Long
Waves seemed to inspire some of the originators of Structures of Social
Accumulation theory,
https://archive.org/details/segmentedworkdiv0000gord/page/n5/mode/2up, which
starts with "This book grew out of an urgent political concern about persistent
political and economic divisions among workers in the United States. These
divisions have helped frustrate widespread hopes for a much broader and more
dynamic progressive movement in this country. We argue in this book that such
disunity persists in large part as a result of historically created objective
divisions among workers in their production experiences."
I'm taking the Gordon, Edward, Reich work to be seminal, and they seem to
support Mandel's Long Wave conceptions while taking issue with him on the role
of institutions. It's relevant to this list that Trotsky took issue with
Kondratiev and the notion of Long Waves, and this led to an discussion on the
nature of exogenous events to a system, according to
https://newleftreview.org/issues/i99/articles/richard-b-day-the-theory-of-long-waves-kondratiev-trotsky-mandel.pdf
thanks, Mark
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