I have no intention of defending a Pope, but there are a billion adherents 
worldwide to my former religion, and their politics has political 
ramifications. In the 80's, for example, many people fleeing from Reagan's 
dirty wars in Latin American ended up as migrants in US cities where right-wing 
Catholic bishops ran the Church. These Dioceses focused their work on 
anti-abortion campaigns, courted the powerful, and ignored the plight of the 
impoverished Catholic migrants crowding into their cities. And they ignored the 
migrants' children, who formed gangs in LA and other cities that were 
transplanted back to the Northern Triangle counties when the US began deporting 
gang members back to their parents' countries from which so many people leave 
for the US border, continuing the cycle.

Pope Francis has lessened the influence of conservative and MAGA clerics in the 
US, which might help in the fight against Trump's anti-immigrant campaign 
(against only non-white immigrants as shown by his actions). It should be 
pointed out the Father Jorge Mario Bergoglio became the first Pope named 
"Francis" in the church's two-thousand year history. That was for a reason: 
Saint Francis was an advocate for the poor and radical redistribution of 
wealth. Historically, he was an embarrassment to the Vatican, which repurposed 
Francis as the patron-saint of the animals.

> On Feb 11, 2025, at 2:07 PM, sartesian via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sure does and it ain't what's advertised:
>  
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/14/pope-francis-argentina-military-junta
>  
> https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/pope-francis-argentina-junta/317336/
>  etc etc etc

Those articles are a dozen years-old, from 2013, immediately after he was 
confirmed. The Guardian had changed its tune by 2017, see 
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/oct/27/the-war-against-pope-francis?utm_source=chatgpt.com.

>  Besides, there's that problem of child molestation.

Are you saying that Pope Francis has been accused of child molestation? Or are 
you repeating the trope about child abuse in the Catholic Church? The truth is 
that practically every US institution caring for children has been shown to 
have a child-molestation problem, sooner or later. Except for the Girl Scouts.

Mark 




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