On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 02:32 AM, Mark Baugher wrote:

> 
> I have no intention of defending a Pope

says Mark Baugher who then goes ahead to do exactly that, defend the Pope, the 
head official of an institution involved in:
--extermination of indigenous people worldwide
--conducted so-called religious crusades
--was and remains the opponent of scientific inquiry
--awarding sections of the world as exclusive areas for specific slave trading 
nations
--was the backbone of feudal regimes
--exterminate indigenous peoples' culture
--assigned  women inferior status
--supported large landed estate owners against rural poor
--kidnapped indigenous children
--been responsible for literally  thousands of child molestations, paying out 
billions (see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlements_and_bankruptcies_in_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
 ) HARDLY A FICKING TROPE!
--opposed women's reproductive health rights from birth control to abortion
--participated in the notorious rat lines aiding the escape of Nazis
--burned "heretics"
--condemned those whose sexual orientation wasn't up to church standards,

Need I continue? But Mark thinks :

> 
> 
> Pope Francis has lessened the influence of conservative and MAGA clerics
> in the US, which might help in the fight against Trump's anti-immigrant
> campaign (against only non-white immigrants as shown by his actions).
> 
> 

Mark, you have no way of knowing that--you have no measure of either the level 
of conservative and MAGA clerics or the Pope's influence.

As for the church as an institution, the Argentine bishops and the dirty war 
see 
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2023/06/23/argentina-dirty-war-pope-francis-bishops-disappeared-245548

Yes, Francis as pope ordered the release of the documents, but the issue is 
what he did as a bishop.

But this:  " Or are you repeating the trope about child abuse in the Catholic 
Church? The truth is that practically every US institution caring for children 
has been shown to have a child-molestation problem, sooner or later. Except for 
the Girl Scouts." takes the fucking cake, and the use of the obscenity is 
perfectly justified by the obscenity of Mark's rationalization; of abuse--and 
of course his natiional blindspot in that the church worldwide participated in 
this abuse.

It is disgraceful that a Marxist list allows such rot to appear on its site. 
Who moderates the moderator?


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