> > Productive forces are human capabilities: skill, knowledge, strength, > cooperation, perception. ... I would argue that the "civilizational > challenge" is to free our thinking from the fetters of the ideological > short cut that misattributes to the products of human labour the > "productive force" that is, in fact, a feature of social individuals. >
Okay, take a "social individual" of today, let's say an outstanding programmer of AI chips. He performs wonders; what a productive force is his skill, knowledge, etc. Now put him in a time machine back to ancient Rome. He has no semiconductor chips, no electronic anything to work with. He is no productive force. Contrary to your idealist conceptual twist, the products of human labor are indeed part of the productive forces. Back to nuclear power and DSA, the original topic of this thread: has anyone in DSA criticized Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for illusions in her Green New Deal? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39646): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39646 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116655555/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
